Rumours of a new PO due this month

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Honestly- the more I think about this and manage to look past the insanely flashy centerlinks, the more I think it's genius. The Planet Ocean has, for a long time, been like a 166/2254 inspired derivative of the modern SMP. This new design radically departs from the SMP design. A lot of it seems to lean into the ultra deep design, which already had foregone the He valve (and nobody complained about that decision that I've seen?). And it manages to call back to older retro/boxy styles.

It makes the SMP more distinct
Makes the PO/UD line a bit more cohesive and distinct
and the angular lines also drive significant distinction between the heritage and PO lines.

At the end of the day, this wouldn't be a watch for me but it does exactly what so many people want- creates more distinction between models and creates an additional dive watch option without an He valve.

And if nothing else it is drumming up TONS of debate and conversation. The only bad press is no press.
I just think that it’s a shame we’ll never be getting a true successor to the 165.024. The 300m will never lose its “change it a little” Rolex Error-Proof dial, nor will it lose its crown guard, skeletonized sword hands, and HeV, all critical parts of its identity.

While I agree with the people who approved this watch, who likely thought the PO needed to be more distinct, this just reminds me of when Omega kept jumping the shark in the 70s with funky and expensive designs that may have sold well short-term, but only remained collectible to a niche audience.
 
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That case is going to be a nightmare to refinish when they're serviced. The OSC techs are probably like, thanks a lot designers!
 
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That case is going to be a nightmare to refinish when they're serviced. The OSC techs are probably like, thanks a lot designers!
Won’t be a problem. Twisted lugs present much more of a challenge…this is quite straightforward from what I see.
 
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I love that Omega is doing something new with their case design, especially on something as iconic as the PO. I’m excited for what’s to come, especially with the future of the 300MP. It actually makes me excited to see where they take the 300MP next.
 
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After looking the video and pics some more, looks like they took a lot of inspiration from the SHOM case (Service Hydrographique et Océanographique de la Marine) with all the angles.

The difference between the two is the SHOM had contrast with the brushed/polished case. The new PO is all bling.

But the industry has moved more towards watches being men's jewelry from the tool watch esthetic, trying to thread that line for a while now.

The more I see the new releases, the more I look at the vintage space to see where in their catalogue they're pulling from.

 
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I can't get why they made the bezel so large; it's all a matter of proportions: with a slightly thinner bezel, the new design is not so bad at all; but that little dial nestled in that massive bezel makes it look like a child's toy-watch, at least that's my impression.
With just a thinner bezel (and therefore a larger dial) and the exact same case, it would be so much nicer (to my eyes):
 
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I can't get why they made the bezel so large; it's all a matter of proportions: with a slightly thinner bezel, the new design is not so bad at all; but that little dial nestled in that massive bezel makes it look like a child's toy-watch, at least that's my impression.
With just a thinner bezel (and therefore a larger dial) and the exact same case, it would be so much nicer (to my eyes):
100% agree. This mock-up already looks better. Still not as good as the previous generation, but an improvement.
 
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I can't get why they made the bezel so large; it's all a matter of proportions: with a slightly thinner bezel, the new design is not so bad at all; but that little dial nestled in that massive bezel makes it look like a child's toy-watch, at least that's my impression.
With just a thinner bezel (and therefore a larger dial) and the exact same case, it would be so much nicer (to my eyes):
My guess is that the wider bezel is a necessity: If they have gone for a He-safe design (as the removal of the HEV would suggest), it may be necessary to use a different crystal fixing system involving different gaskets and some kind of retention ring. The bezel has to be wider to cover that. I guess this is the case for the Ultradeep too.
 
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I can't get why they made the bezel so large; it's all a matter of proportions: with a slightly thinner bezel, the new design is not so bad at all; but that little dial nestled in that massive bezel makes it look like a child's toy-watch, at least that's my impression.
With just a thinner bezel (and therefore a larger dial) and the exact same case, it would be so much nicer (to my eyes):
I think the bezel is about the same size as the previous gens, except now they got rid of the fake ring that gives the illusion of a smaller bezel in favor of the Rolex Sea-Dweller style bezel markings.

 
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I think the bezel is about the same size as the previous gens, except now they got rid of the fake ring that gives the illusion of a smaller bezel in favor of the Rolex Sea-Dweller style bezel markings.

I was talking about proportions: the ratio between dial’s diameter and bezel’s thickness is different, with the new one having a seemingly smaller dial and/or a chunkier bezel, given the same overall diameter of the case.
 
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I think its more some influence from the Land-Dweller in the bracelet and case, Omega made a lot of integrated bracelet references with that type for shape back in the day and probably wanted to sort of "cover off" that model from an aesthetic perspective, while differentiating the PO a bit more from their other divers.
Unlikely there is any Land Dweller influence at all. An internal Swatch/Omega source tells me that Omega's design cycle means that this new Planet Ocean was designed at least 5 years ago and so probably got the sign off for production around two years ago so the Land Dweller was not even released at the point this Omega was approved for production. The only things that can then changed are minor issues like dial colours and so on. If one removes the thick rather incongruous bezel from the case design it looks like the new Planet Ocean takes its inspiration from the Seamaster SHOM rather than the Seamaster 300 as the first three generation have done. Whether that is a good or bad thing is really up to the buyer. My own opinion for what it is worth, (nothing to anyone else but me really), is that the pictures suggest the new Planet Ocean is slightly ill-proportioned and should have had a much reduced bezel both in terms of how high it sits and how wide it is. Having said that it is a 600M/2000ft divers watch so the width and thickness of the crystal will have been determined by the WR rating. That has a knock on as to how the bezel fits on the case and thus how tall it needs to be etc. But as with all new watches it needs to be seen and handled to see how it really is.
 
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From my conversations with Omega, they removed the HEV not because some people thought it was ugly, but because they have redesigned the case in a way that Helium gas can escape during saturation diving without the need for a HEV anymore. If there's no function for a HEV anymore then logically it would be better to remove it.
If you unscrew the crown He gas escapes from the watch case. As you only need to do this once out of the water there is really no need for an He escape valve. My local boutiques find the most common repairs on Diver and Planet Ocean watches is water ingress due to the blockhead who owns the watch playing with the He valve and leaving it open. It is why Omega deliberately made the He Valve on the Diver in 2018 WR to 50M with it open.
 
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My local boutiques find the most common repairs on Diver and Planet Ocean watches is water ingress due to the blockhead who owns the watch playing with the He valve and leaving it open.
If this is true it is truly alarming !
The manually operated HEV has always been the worst possible solution to a problem nobody (statistically speaking) has.

It is only relevant to saturation diving, which is only practiced by a very small number of professional divers.
 
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At the Omega official warranty service in Brazil, they told me they have to replace the HE valve on older Planet Oceans when servicing, so it makes the service more expensive due to the part being replaced.
 
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If this is true it is truly alarming !
The manually operated HEV has always been the worst possible solution to a problem nobody (statistically speaking) has.

It is only relevant to saturation diving, which is only practiced by a very small number of professional divers.
But in fairness, so is a 600m WR rating when most people only need 50m for all their pool needs.

These heavy duty dive watches exist mostly for larping purposes and that’s good enough for me.
 
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My local boutiques find the most common repairs on Diver and Planet Ocean watches is water ingress due to the blockhead who owns the watch playing with the He valve and leaving it open. It is why Omega deliberately made the He Valve on the Diver in 2018 WR to 50M with it open.
That's an unusual claim, and one I would take with a very large grain of salt.

In my experience servicing many hundreds of watches with HEV's, it's very rarely a cause of a leak. By far the most common location is the crown, and after that pushers (on chronograph watches) and the HEV is a very distant third. Like beyond Pluto distant...

The Omega HEV has always had 50m water resistance when open, so that was not something they just added in 2018. Since very few people go below 50m, the most likely cause of the boutique getting watches with water inside is what I see on virtually ever watch I've ever serviced that had water inside - the seals were bad due to lack of maintenance.