Is my Vintage Heuer Authentic? All questions here please

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I am no expert for this reference but the printing on your example doesn't look as the reference examples on Onthedash

For example the subdials of the reference examples have serifs on the minute and five minute markers, I can't seem them on the example you bought

Hope you will get some specialists opinion!
 
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"Monaco" also looks off IMO. No Serifs and the 'c' looks very different from the reference examples

"Swiss" is too close to the hour subdial and the font is too thick on your example
 
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Hi!
Did you check Onthedash?
https://www.onthedash.com/watches/reference-73633/
Hi yes thank you, on the dash was my first port of call. This is what led to my concerns re the white subdials (having only mentioned grey or black) Hence why I wanted to ask the opinions of more learned posters. The grey portion of the dial and markers look as expected and I am led to believe that this watch is from the latter part of the run towards mid 70s. I saw varying opinions on lettering font authenticity but my main concern is the sub dials and the fact that they are white. The irony is that this watch was sold by a dealer called SubDial! Again, the watch is in beautiful condition so I have no issue with vendors here or other parts such as case crown pushers etc, I just am uneasy that the subdials are unlike any version of this watch that I have ever seen.
 
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"Monaco" also looks off IMO. No Serifs and the 'c' looks very different from the reference examples

"Swiss" is too close to the hour subdial and the font is too thick on your example
Thank you for your observations- these are all certainly items that have added to my unease. I am leaning towards returning but was hoping (hail Mary style…) that someone would tell me this was a super rare service dial or something 😊
 
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Does anyone know if the 980.006n ever came with a color logo on the dial? I've only ever seen black and white dials. Someone told me early watches had color logos, but I'm not sure

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Does anyone know if the 980.006n ever came with a color logo on the dial? I've only ever seen black and white dials. Someone told me early watches had color logos, but I'm not sure

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A colored TH logo without green is quite suspicious.
 
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Green or black, I've never seen this on a 980.006N
 
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Hi Guys, can you help to see if this model is authentic? It does not seem to match what I can see in on the dash, it has a caliber 11 movement.
https://imgur.com/a/fwGSamx
https://imgur.com/a/vZz2Mth
Looks very odd - would never have that inner scale and red numerals on the date dial. Dial looks like a 3rd execution but that would have fluted pushers and a Calibre 12 movement. So has been assembled somewhere
 
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Looks very odd - would never have that inner scale and red numerals on the date dial. Dial looks like a 3rd execution but that would have fluted pushers and a Calibre 12 movement. So has been assembled somewhere
Yeah, I've never seen a red date wheel before and the mismatch between 3rd execution and caliber 11 has been throwing me off. Do you think this watch is still buyable, even at a good price?
 
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Hi! Can check for me whether this is aut? Thanks.
Really difficult to tell from that picture, any serial numbers on the back, or the strap?
 
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Hello I bought few years ago in a jewelry store this 988.413... I think I'm not an expert 🙁
I paid it a bit more the cost of gold at that time, cause I thought that a 1985 NOS (or nearly) was a good choice. I really like it but I don't think I'll ever use it, I'm thinking I can sell it more than the 18 KT gold price. Just few questions, is there anyone who knows the net gold weight assuming the whole watch is around 112 grams ? And more or less what could be the value of a piece in NOS (maybe near nos) condition with warranty, box an so on ? Last question what could be the safest and simpliest way to sell the watch if you need to sell it far or abroad ? Thank You very much

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Hello I bought few years ago in a jewelry store this 988.413... I think I'm not an expert 🙁
I paid it a bit more the cost of gold at that time, cause I thought that a 1985 NOS (or nearly) was a good choice. I really like it but I don't think I'll ever use it, I'm thinking I can sell it more than the 18 KT gold price. Just few questions, is there anyone who knows the net gold weight assuming the whole watch is around 112 grams ? And more or less what could be the value of a piece in NOS (maybe near nos) condition with warranty, box an so on ? Last question what could be the safest and simpliest way to sell the watch if you need to sell it far or abroad ? Thank You very much

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Wow, don't see many of those!
You have the correct ref number, they were part of the "Golden Hours" collection.

The movement,battery, crystal and movement ring likely weigh in the region of 20 grams in total,so there is a lot of gold there.

It would be a tragedy to scrap it for melt value though.
 
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Wow, don't see many of those!
You have the correct ref number, they were part of the "Golden Hours" collection.

The movement,battery, crystal and movement ring likely weigh in the region of 20 grams in total,so there is a lot of gold there.

It would be a tragedy to scrap it for melt value though.
Thank You for the weight estimate and the collection's name, I thought the mechanism would be a bit less cause it's a quartz but you could be right. Anyway the intrinsic value only should be over 8 k€ so the real value could be some ks more. It would be stupid to destroy a beautiful 85 watch near nos. I don't know much of them were produced, I think not so many. I will collect more infos. Thank You again for you help
 
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Thank You for the weight estimate and the collection's name, I thought the mechanism would be a bit less cause it's a quartz but you could be right. Anyway the intrinsic value only should be over 8 k€ so the real value could be some ks more. It would be stupid to destroy a beautiful 85 watch near nos. I don't know much of them were produced, I think not so many. I will collect more infos. Thank You again for you help
I've just weighed an ETA quartz movement of that period along with a crystal of approx size, a crystal gasket, a movement ring and stem. Also a couple of spring bars and a few bracelet pins for good measure.
That came in at 16 grams.
On top of that, there is the bezel insert which is glass I think on these. If it has a divers extension on the bracelet that will also be steel I imagine.
I think 20 grams of non gold content is likely close to correct.

It's a difficult watch to price, partly because there are so few with which to reference previous sales.
It's undoubtedly very collectable as a watch,but it's precious metal content lifts it out of the reach of many enthusiasts. It's a small niche market compared to the precious metal market.

I think if you can sell for a few hundred Euros above scrap value that would be a good result. It would also be satisfying to know the watch would live on with a collector who appreciated it for what it is.
 
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Did Mr. HoltzPlatz buy one a couple of years ago? Can’t find it in the archives. 5k I thought
 
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Did Mr. HoltzPlatz buy one a couple of years ago? Can’t find it in the archives. 5k I thought
It's in this thread @mattp 🙂
Gold prices have gone up somewhat since!
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