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Ultra Rare Universal Geneve - OR Fake? PLEASE HELP
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dennisthemenace
·I would certainly agree that it's unique. Which one is the chrono pusher?
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LouS
··Mrs Nataf's Other SonPhil,
no need to double post - I've deleted your other one.
Regarding this watch, I don't know, I've never seen one like it. But I'm intrigued. Can you post an image of the movement, or at least the caseback?
no need to double post - I've deleted your other one.
Regarding this watch, I don't know, I've never seen one like it. But I'm intrigued. Can you post an image of the movement, or at least the caseback?
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PhilipvD
·Yes sorry was talking about this watch
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PhilipvD
·But what do you think its worth? And what ref could this be?
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PhilipvD
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Yes thats my account
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woodwkr2
·Well, until you give us more to work with, we can leave this quite simply: you'd be a damn fool to buy the watch based solely on that photo.
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PhilipvD
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PhilipvD
·What can you read from this?
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·Unless someone has made some amazing modifications on the dial side of the movement, there is nothing to drive any of the hands.
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PhilipvD
·QUOTE="Stewart H, post: 233162, member: 2270"]Unless someone has made some amazing modifications on the dial side of the movement, there is nothing to drive any of the hands.[/QUOTE]
OK here is some additional info:
I know the calibre Invicta chrono, it s unique moviment rectangular for chronograph, it s Very rare, you can find its inside Invicta sport (iper rare, maybe 20 pieces ) inside mixte (maybe 10 pieces) and inside a few pieces anonymous. Probably they are all prototypes And Also the Universal maybe Made a few pieces for prototypes.
OK here is some additional info:
I know the calibre Invicta chrono, it s unique moviment rectangular for chronograph, it s Very rare, you can find its inside Invicta sport (iper rare, maybe 20 pieces ) inside mixte (maybe 10 pieces) and inside a few pieces anonymous. Probably they are all prototypes And Also the Universal maybe Made a few pieces for prototypes.
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woodwkr2
·The bridgework isn't consistent with what we normally see in a Universal. Not to mention that the movement is unsigned and the improbable dial layout is inconsistent with the jeweling on the back of the movement.
As was pointed out above, unless there were some truly amazing modifications made to the dial side, I don't know how this thing even functions.
And even if you were prototyping, why would you put a crown and tube right next to the balance wheel?
Short of some spectacular additional piece of information, I would suggest that if you want to do some further homework on this piece that you check out some of the Frankenwatches that have been discussed on the forum. In particular, you may be interested in the Peruvian and South American varietals.
As was pointed out above, unless there were some truly amazing modifications made to the dial side, I don't know how this thing even functions.
And even if you were prototyping, why would you put a crown and tube right next to the balance wheel?
Short of some spectacular additional piece of information, I would suggest that if you want to do some further homework on this piece that you check out some of the Frankenwatches that have been discussed on the forum. In particular, you may be interested in the Peruvian and South American varietals.
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PhilipvD
·The bridgework isn't consistent with what we normally see in a Universal. Not to mention that the movement is unsigned and the improbable dial layout is inconsistent with the jeweling on the back of the movement.
As was pointed out above, unless there were some truly amazing modifications made to the dial side, I don't know how this thing even functions.
And even if you were prototyping, why would you put a crown and tube right next to the balance wheel?
Short of some spectacular additional piece of information, I would suggest that if you want to do some further homework on this piece that you check out some of the Frankenwatches that have been discussed on the forum. In particular, you may be interested in the Peruvian and South American varietals.
Thank you for your advice! I am just not sure, if this piece was even manufactured by UG.
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·And what about the case back number and UG stamp. Doestrogen that say anything