NEWpt 32 Caliber Recognition HELP ! Leonidas VENUS? M.w.co? hmmm....

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So Tavannes / Cyma caliber 330 - 332 "savonette or "hunter" movement 13" 3b with jewels set in gold chatons (which was handy as the jewels were shattered so the plates were reamed out and new jewels set in slightly wider chatons) with tempered and blued steel hairsprings of overcoil form (breguet hairspring?)

ranfft dont have it so i would have been there indefinitely!

Thanks @JimInOz

Am i the only one that has these? no one else got a caliber recognition question? this would be a good sticky

what with OF the combined forces of a wealth of knowledge and millions of hours researching watches!
 
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I'll dig one up for you tomorrow, I'm halfway through a wee dram at the moment and then off to beddy byes.

Unless another dram comes by that is!

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there is the other moser?

i thought that would be easy tho its a signal corps so usually quite well catalogued

Dram.

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got it i thought you meant something watch related your going to bed i just woke up!
 
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Do you notice a familiar shaped escape wheel cock?

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OK, just to keep you busy through the day, here's one for you.

Manufacturer?

What's different?

 
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OK, just to keep you busy through the day, here's one for you.

Manufacturer?

What's different?

Electa centre seconds (Gallet?) Hunter pin set
 
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there is the other moser?

i thought that would be easy tho its a signal corps so usually quite well catalogued


got it i thought you meant something watch related your going to bed i just woke up!
actually i thought this would be an FHF but if it is ranfft dont have it... hmm not as easy as i thought!
 
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Fontainemelon Movement 3

Fontainemelon movement 3. Click image to enlarge

Fontainemelon movement 3. Click image to enlarge
This is another movement by Fabrique d'Horlogerie de Fontainemelon, identified by the William Tell mark of an arrow through an apple on the bottom plate under the barrel bridge. The number 3 is my number, not the Fontainemelon calibre number which I have not yet discovered.

The second picture shows the bottom plate, which is usually covered by the dial. The visible mechanism at the top is the keyless work that allows the watch to be wound and set by the crown. The shape of the cover plate work that holds the yoke and return spring in place is very distinctive.

This movement is from a Borgel watch so it has a pin set mechanism for setting the hands. Instead of a setting lever, the steel part held in place by the setting lever screw and the screw with a large head on its left hand end is fixed, holding the short movement stem in place. When pressed by the pin set the yoke pivots around the screw on its right hand end to move the sliding pinion down into the hand setting position. When the pin set is released the return spring pushes the yoke and the sliding pinion back into the winding position.

If you have a movement like this, don't just look at the centre bridge because A. Schild made a movement with a very similar centre bridge.
 
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So nice almost "tuna tin" type case Leonidas.. thought it was a venus 60 (or family 99 , 78, 60.i 60ii etc etc blah blah) bridge shape is different in all tho =( AND they are all too early? this has a Incabloc shock protection... Who is M.W.Co ?

BLOODY WATCHES!




the Venus thats my closest match tho presumably @JimInOz is about to poopoo this as ridiculous
 
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Has anyone here got

A) way too much time
B) programing Knowledge
C) access to facial recognition technology software

The Points system would be perfect in a HUGE database of movements you could upload your image and let the software recognise the caliber...

can someone do this please and put an end to conventional database searches
 
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Has anyone here got

A) way too much time
B) programing Knowledge
C) access to facial recognition technology software

The Points system would be perfect in a HUGE database of movements you could upload your image and let the software recognise the caliber...

can someone do this please and put an end to conventional database searches

You would have to first have a reference library of every caliber ever made for it to be effective.
Much harder than facial recognition of humans, even that requires an image of the suspect human
 
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Has anyone here got

A) way too much time
B) programing Knowledge
C) access to facial recognition technology software

The Points system would be perfect in a HUGE database of movements you could upload your image and let the software recognise the caliber...

can someone do this please and put an end to conventional database searches

Would be up to people that make money out of dealing in watches to stump that type of money up to build something like that 😗

We hobby / collectors call it research and enjoy it 😉