Discussion on Broad Arrow Polerouters

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Just compare them to any of the original examples posted previously in this thread.
 
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Yeah - those hands are just not seen elsewhere and they stylistically clash pretty bad (though you could make the argument that traditional broad arrow hands do, too).

I think I've seen those exact same hands on cheaper diver watches. I'll try to find what I'm talking about.

Sometimes, collectors have to use statistics to gauge the likelihood of originality. This is one of those instances.
 
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All right, thanks again.
I thought they looked cool! But to be honest, I have very little knowledge on this model. I'm glad I asked before I pulled the trigger!
 
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All right, thanks again.
I thought they looked cool! But to be honest, I have very little knowledge on this model. I'm glad I asked before I pulled the trigger!

The originals start wide near the canon pin and narrow towards the arrow. The ones on the model you posted are the same width throughout.
 
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Any thoughts on the Broad Arrow at the forthcoming Henry's auction?
It has what the catalogue describes as a "red gold coated" Cal 215, which strikes me as uncommon. Is that likely to be original to this watch?

 
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I must admit that I'm kicking myself for not trying harder to buy this one that sold recently on eBay.
Older bumper model with lumed chapter ring and altogether more authentic looking.
Did anyone here buy it? If you're intending to restore it, I'd love to see some "after" pics.
 
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Thanks @ConElPueblo

It's a serious "project". I must admit that I had previously missed the fact that the cross-hair had been painted over. Given that the stem is broken, the case back is badly scratched and the lugs look to have been overly polished then I'm not sure how much there is left to salvage.
 
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I made a modest offer, which has been rejected. Time to walk away.
 
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I do love the hands and I really like the lumed chapter ring, aside from the issues above.....
 
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I see it sold for $1,650

Slightly less than the first time from memory.
 
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Did we ever see the inside? Condition of the case is not so great, I wonder if the inside was in a better shape...
 
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Thought I’d drop this off over here because its something outrageously uncommon if authentic.



Posted today on IG by @observatorychronometer
He notes it’s a 138 with an observatory number on the movement. Also has some of the best looking radium around.

Who wouldn’t love to see the movement?

R
 
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yowza, that is epic. As is the way overboard saturation levels/filters we know and love/hate on IG
 
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In addition to the question discussed above as to whether there are genuine microtor Broad Arrows (the consensus seems to be that there are), I would welcome views on another Broad Arrow related question:

Did all Broad Arrows start life with a lumed marker ring (as the ring is referred to on the Polarouter advert posted in this thread)?

My belief is that they did and the same Polarouter advert supports this, as all of the Broad Arrow variants on that advert have a lumed marker ring. However there are a number of Polerouters with Broad Arrow hands without any sign of lume on the ring. Is this simply because the lume fell off and the ring was cleaned or replaced? Or did perhaps some later Polerouter (as opposed to Polarouter) examples not have a lumed marker ring?
 
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In addition to the question discussed above as to whether there are genuine microtor Broad Arrows (the consensus seems to be that there are), I would welcome views on another Broad Arrow related question:

Did all Broad Arrows start life with a lumed marker ring (as the ring is referred to on the Polarouter advert posted in this thread)?

My belief is that they did and the same Polarouter advert supports this, as all of the Broad Arrow variants on that advert have a lumed marker ring. However there are a number of Polerouters with Broad Arrow hands without any sign of lume on the ring. Is this simply because the lume fell off and the ring was cleaned or replaced? Or did perhaps some later Polerouter (as opposed to Polarouter) examples not have a lumed marker ring?

I belive that, originally, all BA had the lumed ring. It's possible that in some of them the lumed ring was cleaned or replaced, who knows? I also believe (in fact, i'm sure) that the same reference was released with and without BA.

What i don't believe, at all, is that a BA was released without lume on ring or dial... When i see one of those, immediatly think that or the ring was replaced or the BA hands were placed
 
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Thought I’d drop this off over here because its something outrageously uncommon if authentic.



Posted today on IG by @observatorychronometer
He notes it’s a 138 with an observatory number on the movement. Also has some of the best looking radium around.

Who wouldn’t love to see the movement?

R
Is it my colour blindness (yes it’s still beautiful) or does the lume remind anyone else of Wimbledon or moss growing on a tree?
 
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aaah, this watch is currently one of my grails that still seems relatively affordable.
 
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I belive that, originally, all BA had the lumed ring. It's possible that in some of them the lumed ring was cleaned or replaced, who knows? I also believe (in fact, i'm sure) that the same reference was released with and without BA.

What i don't believe, at all, is that a BA was released without lume on ring or dial... When i see one of those, immediatly think that or the ring was replaced or the BA hands were placed

Thanks. I am interested to know what you meant by "the same reference was released with and without BA".

Are you saying, for example, that there were watches with 20217-8 case reference that did not have BA hands or lume on the ring?

That doesn't seem consistent with the Polarouter advert posted in this thread which describes and illustrates each of the case references.