Chinese Space Watch

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Right, I’m merely talking how the Chinese media portrayed it on TV in China. They had songs and plays about it. No I didn’t spend all my time in China watching TV. It was just interesting to watch at night when things were winding down I’ll leave the international politics to those who are payed more than me. My comment is not meant to be political at all just relating what I watched in China.
I lived in Taiwan from 80-84
 
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I lived in Taiwan from 80-84
Never been my father spent a lot of time and raved about it and he was pretty much all over the orient. I’d very much be interested in seeing Taiwan but since our family is in mainland I doubt I will have the opportunity to get there. Again though my comment was strictly limited to television I watched and the message it gave. Nothing deeper than that at all.
 
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I lived in Taiwan from 80-84

On our list, if we ever get to travel again. Supposed to be high on the list for ex-pats: friendly, great food, relatively inexpensive, modern, great museums, reliable transportation, warm.

Would love to find out for myself how much of that is true. Someday.
 
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I really do like the Spacemaster. (No accounting for taste.)

One of the many intriguing features is the bezel.

It has eight increments because the Chinese spacesuit can support life for 8 hours. Kindof important and better to put on a bezel than 500 mph on a craft moving 25k mph, like the Speedmaster.

I love the increments. It starts with the traditional triangle. "Yay, I'm going on a spacewalk! Okay, turn my bezel to the start time... Go!"

Then there's the countdown. Nice big dots. Getting to the 7th hour, the dots change to little bars. Nothing dramatic, but enough to get your attention. "Uh, hate to bring this up, but you may want to consider heading back now" says the bezel. "But no rush, we have several more bars left."

Then at the end of the eight hours, nothing. A blank space, nothingness.

After a suitable moment of silence and respect, "FIYTA"! The watch says, well, that was sad, but we're ready for the next one, you can count on us, FIYTA!

Sure, dive watches use a bezel to potentially save your life, but no other watch summarizes life, death and rebirth on one single cycle of the bezel. Sublime.

But the icing on the cake is the alignment of the dots with the hour markers. The dots don't line up with the indexes. It's like the typical communist party reaction to running out of time. One hour of air has been used up, but we say that was exaggerated, you actually have more time because we deem it so.

The shape of the bezel is also attractive. The wave looks like it would be easy to grab. The clean steel also adds to the watch. If it were black, it would make the whole watch seem larger. Together with the dial, it seems like it would wear nicely on the wrist.

Of course, we haven't mentioned those pushers. Almost makes you blush how big they are. Whoever said size doesn't matter hasn't seen these pushers.
Appreciate your views on the watch's design.
To me, the most interesting feature is the minutes subdial which is divided into 5 minute increments for a total of 45 mins. Very unusual as most chrono subdials have either 30mins or 60mins total. The bezel reminds me of the scalloped bezel on the Seamaster Pro. Don't know how easy it would be to grip. The one on the SMP isn't easy to manipulate with wet hands. Yes, the pushers are big. Maybe for use with space suit gloves? Overall a very rugged and utilitarian look, as one would expect of a watch designed for the rigors of space exploration.
 
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Never been my father spent a lot of time and raved about it and he was pretty much all over the orient. I’d very much be interested in seeing Taiwan but since our family is in mainland I doubt I will have the opportunity to get there. Again though my comment was strictly limited to television I watched and the message it gave. Nothing deeper than that at all.
I get it. Just most Americans are sadly unaware of the China, Taiwan history. And the history between those 2 and the US going back to the early 1900’s and earlier. The 40’s through early 80’s is fascinatingly deep and complex.
 
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Appreciate your views on the watch's design.
To me, the most interesting feature is the minutes subdial which is divided into 5 minute increments for a total of 45 mins. Very unusual as most chrono subdials have either 30mins or 60mins total. The bezel reminds me of the scalloped bezel on the Seamaster Pro. Don't know how easy it would be to grip. The one on the SMP isn't easy to manipulate with wet hands. Yes, the pushers are big. Maybe for use with space suit gloves? Overall a very rugged and utilitarian look, as one would expect of a watch designed for the rigors of space exploration.

My "review" was a little tongue in cheek but I genuinely like it. It has some negatives but the positives out weigh the negatives thus far. Like you, I am intrigued and would like to hear from anyone who has held one in the flesh.

The Tudo Black Bay Chronos went with a 45 min counter, as did a few others. Maybe the Chinese plan to watch a lot of football while couped up in space?
 
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I get it. Just most Americans are sadly unaware of the China, Taiwan history. And the history between those 2 and the US going back to the early 1900’s and earlier. The 40’s through early 80’s is fascinatingly deep and complex.
That may not be far of the mark but perhaps it’s more accurate to say many than most but I haven’t taken a survey. Funny I think you lived there around the time my father was living there. Although he like me only spent months at a clip in the orient. I think what’s going on today is very deep and complex on that particular topic but alas this is not the place for such things. It’s a big world around us, I like to be aware as much as i can to what’s going on and yet consider myself ignorant to 98% of others realities. I’m grateful I know a few people who are living the situation or situations past that can give me some insight into how things were and are and the more I learn of such things the more I realize how ignorant I truly am. It was much more fun when I was young and knew everything, I was so much older then I’m younger than that now. Ending on a Dylan line but just as easily could have used Don Henley, the more I know, the less I understand all the things I thought I knew.
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If I leave here tomorrow
Would you still remember me?
For I must be traveling on now
'Cause there's too many places I've got to see
 
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Has anyone actually found that model for sale? I've seen everything else.
 
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The official Chinese site only lists these models in the space collection:

Space Collection
"Spacewalk" Limited Edition, Grade 5 Titanium - GA8370.WBW
Retail price around $3000USD

Specs:
Movement: Fiyta Multifunctional chronograph, automatic mechanical (no numbers, reference, or details listed)
Dial: Deep black, 45-minute counters, seconds
Glass: Anti-glare synthetic sapphire
Dial, 12-hour counter, AM/PM, luminous hour markers
Case: Grade 5 titanium
Water resistance: 10ATM
Diameter: 44MM
Thickness: 14.95MM
Band width: 20MM
Note: A "Spacewalk" special customized gift box is included, with a complimentary space watch strap and a return capsule ornament. Limited to 300 pieces.
Bezel: Grade V titanium, 7+1 hour marker; unidirectional rotating ratchet buckle: sunlight sail shape, grade 5 titanium. Steel push
ring; luminous scale, Safety clasp

Seems like a fairly premium price point on that one.
 
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Just a heads up that we're removing any political posts here to keep things on topic and not have arguments. This isn't the place to discuss Chinese politics any more than a NASA thread is the right place to discuss the American civil war.

Space exploration benefits all of humanity, so lets focus on that and the watches please. 👍
 
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Has anyone actually found that model for sale? I've seen everything else.
Since the beginning of the thread I have been low key searching only to be reinvigorated to find something based on @pdxleaf fun explanation of the bezel… but alas, I can’t find anything.
 
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Movement: Fiyta Multifunctional chronograph, automatic mechanical (no numbers, reference, or details listed)

I've read somewhere that it is a derivative of Shanghai 3L, one of few Chinese produced 7750 clones. It has the same layout than the 7750 so it is possible.
 
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A good discussion here:

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/chinese-space-watch.934229/

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Discussion Starter · #10 · Oct 29, 2013

Here are informations and specs of this Fiyta Spacemaster LE :

It is a Limited Edition of 699 pieces, and mine is #96.
This timepiece was launched on the Chinese market on November 14th 2008.
(I bought it in Beijing in December 2008)
Its price was 12800 RMB (± 1525 € or 2100 US$).
So its not yet a Swiss-price !

Its specs :
. proprietary Fiyta manual winding chronograph (indeed derived from a Shanghai movement, coming from a Valjoux 7750 license)
. power reserve 45 hours
. stainless steel case - diameter 45 mm (51 mm overall) - thickness 15 mm
. superluminova lumes
. 3 sub-dials on 6-9-12 o'clock
. unidirectional titanium rotating bezel
. embossed caseback with commemorative spacewalk Taikonaut design (screwed caseback with 6 Allen screws)
. anti-reflective flat sapphire crystal
. rubber strap with deployment buckle
. 50 m waterproof

Chinese space administration required special specs :
. special anti-magnetic shield (up to 48 000 A/m)
. the AM/PM indication
. the minutes sub-dial displaying 45 minutes, with a blue zone between 25 and 30, and a green zone between 40 and 45 (when spacewalking, blue zone means Taikonaut it's time to come back in the spaceship - green zone is an emergency, other Taikonauts must haul him back) - Taikonauts are required to complete tasks in 30 min and 45 min intervals
. 8 hours rotating bezel serves as a life support indicator for the Chinese EVA spacesuit
. anti-clockwise locking crown (to prevent any accidental crown release)
. temperature range of -80° to +80° Celsius (a first in the world) - Fiyta invented a specially formulated lubricant which allows the watch to continue working despite temperature changes

During its maiden flight (on mission Shenzhou VII), Spacemaster was worn by Taikonaut ZHAI Zhigang, performing the first Chinese spacewalk, on September 29th 2008.
Its was the first model watch, with a very large steel case of 54 mm and a velcro strap.

Concerning the Fiyta policy and influence over Chinese authorities, I don't have any clues...
It's obvious however, knowing well Chinese habits, that these authorities decided to favor a Chinese brand.
And Fiyta is well known all over China...

Cheers,
Brice
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Also here:
https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/basel-news-fiyta-sea-gull-million-smart.60162/
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I've had my Fiyta GA8370 for just over 2 years now and have no complaints. It is my biggest watch, not the most comfortable, but I do like a little bit of heft in my watches. Wears bigger than my Panerai, that is for sure.
I first became interested in the watch after seeing it advertised at that famous subway station in Chongqing, China. Took a little while to find one, but I am happy with the sub $AUD1k purchase. It's a lot of wtach for the money.

 
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I've had my Fiyta GA8370 for just over 2 years now and have no complaints. It is my biggest watch, not the most comfortable, but I do like a little bit of heft in my watches. Wears bigger than my Panerai, that is for sure.
I first became interested in the watch after seeing it advertised at that famous subway station in Chongqing, China. Took a little while to find one, but I am happy with the sub $AUD1k purchase. It's a lot of wtach for the money.

Nice pickup. How good is the timekeeping?
 
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I am not sure how old this watch is, it has never been services. I do not wear it a lot, but have had it on for a few days and still am wearing it. At 188 grams, it's got some heft. Embedd with the " Fiyta 7750" movement it loses about 15 secs a day.
 
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FYI in September 2008 the Chinese FIYTA make became only the 5th wrist watch brand to be directly exposed to outer space:
2008, September 27 Shenzhou-7 taikonaut Zhai Zhigang during a 22 minutes long spacewalk, China's first, he waved a flag to TV cameras !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhai_Zhigang
 
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1575 days Tiangong Space Station (TSS)
Today we celebrate 1575 days of the Chinese Tiangong Space Station in Low Earth Orbit. TSS is China's third operational space station!
Remember, last year 2024, December 19 Shenzhou 19 Taikonauts Cai Xuzhe and Song Lingdong have broken the world record for the longest spacewalk with a 9 hours 6 minutes long EVA working outside the Wentian laboratory module of the Tiangong Space Station!
I'm always pleasant surprised by the excellent artwork at the caseback of the large 44mm Fiyta chronographs, celebrating EVA milestones !
These 10 ATM waterproof Aerospace series chronographs are powered by the Swiss ETA-7750 automatic chronograph 28800vph movement
(photo: FIYTA)
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