Vintage Gubelin

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Well I know less than nothing about vintage Swiss watches. So, from a baseline of total ignorance I'll comment that after 3 or 4 hours of image searching the only thing I found close was Universal Geneve and not one had the Day/Date window. Also, reading that Gubelin is the Tiffany's of Switzerland, I find it somewhat remote that they wouldn't use solid gold in their manufacturing.
 
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Well I know less than nothing about vintage Swiss watches. So, from a baseline of total ignorance I'll comment that after 3 or 4 hours of image searching the only thing I found close was Universal Geneve and not one had the Day/Date window. Also, reading that Gubelin is the Tiffany's of Switzerland, I find it somewhat remote that they wouldn't use solid gold in their manufacturing.
Gubelin is a high end jewelry/watch retailer in Switzerland, but they made various grades over the years, especially in the 50's and 60's, so you'll see solid 18kt cases, gold capped cases with steel backs, and many stainless steel watches, too. A large part of Swiss sales were (still are) to tourists that visited the major Swiss cities and they had to have models that were affordable to all segments.
 
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Evitzee Evitzee
Gubelin is a high end jewelry/watch retailer in Switzerland, but they made various grades over the years, especially in the 50's and 60's, so you'll see solid 18kt cases, gold capped cases with steel backs, and many stainless steel watches, too. A large part of Swiss sales were (still are) to tourists that visited the major Swiss cities and they had to have models that were affordable to all segments.
Thank you.
 
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If the case is steel, it's worth a bid. I would price it as a fairly obscure brand. Mostly like a Valjoux 72c/73 movement, not related to UG at all.
 
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It is not exactly an obscure Brand. Swiss brand created in 1854 by Mauriz Breitschmid. Very interesting production, high quality, specialised in square dials with the date during the 20s. I would say this one is from the late 30s early 40s... ( lugs shape)
Here is a more recent one
https://www.watchmaster.com/en/shop/gubelin/triple-calendar-moonphase
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and more here:
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/guebelin/index.htm?SETLANG=en_GB&SETCURR=GBP
But certainly uncommon in the USA.
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I didn't mean to imply that Gubelin is obscure, but that I would price it as equivalent to an obscure brand, as opposed to valuing it as if it were a UG, Heuer, Breitling, etc.
 
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This is a lovely Triple from the “Tiffany” of Europe. I kinda disagree that it’s an obscure brand.
 
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Thought Goodwill had cleaned up their act.
 
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Thought Goodwill had cleaned up their act.

They probably aren't paid well or trained well. It's not like the employees are getting the profits. I suspect they are doing the best they can, even if they are winging it at times.

They aren't centralized either. Some areas are better than others. The better ones try to take decent photos in focus. The sad thing is the ones who try often take lots of detailed photos of the Speidel twist o flex. But they are trying. Most respond to questions and requests for more photos, including wanting to see tge movement. They are almost eager to help, like they weren't sure what was needed and are thankful for a question.

Lots of watches are in need of repair. There are genuine honest donations, and there are fakes. Buyer beware. Most decent watches go for retail or above. Still, I don't begrudge them. I'd rather see someone over pay Goodwill than for Goodwill to sell a 10k watch for 5 bucks, if that makes sense? Better Goodwill gets some of the action than flipping Ebay.

I may be romanticizing it a bit. But I've never met a person working at Goodwill who seemed well off.
 
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No, I am too unfamiliar with it to know what an appropriate price would be, so I let it pass. Hopefully, whoever bought it knew what its value is.
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@Lew Hardy :And... have you bought it...? Sorry if it is indiscreet , I am just curious ....!
 
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I didn't mean to imply that Gubelin is obscure, but that I would price it as equivalent to an obscure brand, as opposed to valuing it as if it were a UG, Heuer, Breitling, etc.
Even though many Gübelin models were re-branded versions of iconic watches from innovative Swiss companies like Jaeger-LeCoultre, Movado, etc.

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“Ipso” was the Gübelin internal marketing name which they would pair with a descriptive word to give you an idea of any complications:

IpsoVox = Memovox = Alarm watch
IpsoGlobe = World Time
IpsoMatic = Automatic

And so on, and so on…
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Nicest Gueblin I ran into. Didn't pull the trigger but was tempted. Had a 321 movement.

My understanding is that Gueblin took watches from established manufacturers and dressed up the dials or movements, using their in-house jewelers.

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Nicest Gueblin I ran into. Didn't pull the trigger but was tempted. Had a 321 movement.

My understanding is that Gueblin took watches from established manufacturers and dressed up the dials or movements, using their in-house jewelers.

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what movement is in this one? v72?
 
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ALEJANDRO BOVONE ALEJANDRO BOVONE
what movement is in this one? v72?

The watch in the picture had a movement marked 321, which was the same movement used in early Speedmaster and some Seamaster chronographs. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of the movement but I did see it.

This is not evidence that Gueblin watches often have 321 movements. Rather, Gueblin watches built a wide variety of watches using whatever caught their fancy. They were jeweler's and designers first, which means their products are diverse and eclectic.

The watch in the picture was a one owner watch from a prominent doctor who had patented surgical instruments. There are not many like it. Easier to find a G-body 911 in pristine condition, (although the watch was considerably cheaper.) Still, if money were no issue, I could buy a low mileage 1988 911 this afternoon. A Gueblin with a 321? Good luck ever finding one.
 
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