Vintage Defy help

banshee
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Hi Guys,

I'm looking to buy a vintage Defy and this one came up at very good price.
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My concern is the dial: it has the 28,800 line. My research shows that this corresponds only to the later 2562 movement. The movement of this one is 2552 (photo for ref), hence my doubt...

Looks a bit polished, but not too bad.

Any comment would be appreciated.
 
ken_hodson
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Hi. The 2552 is a 21,600bpm movement. So it is possible either the dial has been swapped from another watch or the movement has been replaced.

The case looks a bit polished, but the dial does look nice. I guess it depends on the asking price and whether having the 'wrong' movement for the dial matters to you, or not.
 
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ken_hodson ken_hodson
Hi. The 2552 is a 21,600bpm movement. So it is possible either the dial has been swapped from another watch or the movement has been replaced.

The case looks a bit polished, but the dial does look nice. I guess it depends on the asking price and whether having the 'wrong' movement for the dial matters to you, or not.

THanks for the comment, it confirms my initial theory. I'll pass on it...
 
ken_hodson
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On closer inspection, the lume on the hands doesn't match the dial. I suspect dial not original... I'd probably pass on it too.
There's quite a lot of these on the market at the moment (Chrono24 and eBay) & recently in the OF sales section, so I'd be confident that you will be able to find a better example.
 
Kronos Infinity
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On the hands lume, I had also thought the second hand lume was supposed to be different than the minute/hour hand lume?
 
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Kronos Infinity Kronos Infinity
On the hands lume, I had also thought the second hand lume was supposed to be different than the minute/hour hand lume?
Sometimes you see photos where the second hand lume is a different colour (usually orange) and the minute/hour hand are cream. Sometimes all the hands are the same colour lume, like in this example. I don't know if the different lume colours are original or whether they have been done when the watch is seviced/overhauled. I've an A3643 and I'm pretty sure that it is a one-previous owner watch and hasn't had much in the way of servicing (a service mark from 1978 was probably the last time the case was opened) - all hands have the same colour lume as in the OPs example. I actually like the different lume colour for the seconds hand though... I tried to get my watchmaker to relume the hands, but he refused!
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ken_hodson ken_hodson
Sometimes you see photos where the second hand lume is a different colour (usually orange) and the minute/hour hand are cream. Sometimes all the hands are the same colour lume, like in this example. I don't know if the different lume colours are original or whether they have been done when the watch is seviced/overhauled. I've an A3643 and I'm pretty sure that it is a one-previous owner watch and hasn't had much in the way of servicing (a service mark from 1978 was probably the last time the case was opened) - all hands have the same colour lume as in the OPs example. I actually like the different lume colour for the seconds hand though... I tried to get my watchmaker to relume the hands, but he refused!
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That’s true and the lume all matches
 
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