Universal Geneve triple-date moonphase at Sotheby's

Foo2rama
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Shockingly bad or an earlier variation shot from a weird angle...

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DirtyDozen12
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Foo2rama Foo2rama
Shockingly bad or an earlier variation shot from a weird angle...

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I always appreciate the humor on this forum.

But seriously, this is a very obvious redial. All of the fonts are wrong. If you want another angle, see the photo below that nicely depicts how soft the sub-dial edges are.

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DirtyDozen12
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P.S. For price context, the dealer that was offering the example with the original dial was asking $4800 USD.
 
Larry S
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Second recent example of an auction house who should know better.
 
Mark020
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I commented this is in the Zenith section:
Greg has a very large collection and I like the fact that he collects 'weathered' watches.

However: this auction is a joke and frankly put I don't understand why he lends his name to this. There is serious lack of information in the description (i.e. references, serials) so if it is not visible in the pictures one has to guess. Prices are insane like USD 2.500 for a 30mm UG 'Wilhelmina' and USD 4.000 for a poor Compax
 
bgrisso
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I'm not very surprised, in general it seems like quality UG rarely makes it to the big auction houses. It's such a niche market they don't seem to have the expertise (or perhaps the desire) to get into the details.
 
vujen
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bad, bad thing.

oh and that 12k Minerva is a very well known model "completely assembled in the last decades". 😗
 
DirtyDozen12
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bgrisso bgrisso
It's such a niche market they don't seem to have the expertise (or perhaps the desire) to get into the details.
Good point. It is easy to forget how niche certain markets are when one mainly focuses on niche markets.
 
DirtyDozen12
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vujen vujen
bad, bad thing.

oh and that 12k Minerva is a very well known model "completely assembled in the last decades". 😗
Ha, I was wondering if I should do a post on that Minerva.
 
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DirtyDozen12 DirtyDozen12
I always appreciate the humor on this forum.

But seriously, this is a very obvious redial. All of the fonts are wrong. If you want another angle, see the photo below that nicely depicts how soft the sub-dial edges are.

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agree its an honest redial, in line with honest vintage
 
iltdy
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I think their statement“"All watches sold in this collection are in their 'as found' vintage state and may include replacement parts or modifications."”is tricky。
 
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iltdy iltdy
I think their statement“"All watches sold in this collection are in their 'as found' vintage state and may include replacement parts or modifications."”is tricky。
Agreed. I wonder why this statement is in quotation marks? Also, what does "'as found' vintage state" mean, exactly?
 
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DirtyDozen12 DirtyDozen12
Agreed. I wonder why this statement is in quotation marks? Also, what does "'as found' vintage state" mean, exactly?
means they sell what they bought，but even they themselves dont know whether the dials are original or not，etc
 
Mark020
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Greg knows 😁😒
 
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