Since we're talking about discounts and such, just want to put a thought on the table...Don't get me wrong I always try to get a good buy on things but have no problem paying for an item if I feel it is worth the price.. ....................................BUT, If say a 10,000.00 watch is always available for 25 % off it would always be a 7500.00 watch and thus would devalue the brand. Sorta like the Invictas at here's a 2000.00 watch but if you buy it now you can get it for 199.95 and I have no problem with those type brands but it is still a 199.95 watch, I don't care what the suggested list is.....Just my opinion