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·I love the look of the new no date SM 300. Domed crystal looks great. Tried one on at RedBar and almost went out and bought one the next day. Still considering it.
Seamaster date vs the no date.
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·I am in the market for a new Seamaster, but I am confused about Omega's pricing here. I am looking at the blue ( not summer blue) date, but also the no date black. I know some people like aluminum bezels and some ceramic. Some people like a date window some do not. However, the ceramic is a more expensive feature and a upgrade on most watches. Also, the date is an extra complication. So why is it that the no date Seamaster is a more expensive watch by a substantial amount. I looked at Rolex no date Sub and it is quite a lot less than the date version. Again some people like the no date over the date, but the price reflects the extra complication I believe. Am I missing something here? Do the no date Seamaster have a better movement? I believe the dial on the no date is also aluminum and ceramic on the date version. This is very confusing to me. Can someone explain this to me?
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bsowers34
·No, what happened is Omega listened to all the whining about people wanting a no date version, so they de-contented it and charge more.
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darkguyver
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Yeah, the newer no date Seamaster 300M Pro Diver comes with a stainless steel millanese bracelet or a rubber strap. Of course you can purchase the standard 5 link Seamaster bracelet and have it fitted for you
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eldiano84
·I just wish the new seamaster update keeps the date. I really don’t care about symmetry but when I wear no date watches I still find myself looking at my cellphone for the date. Whenever that wasn’t an issue in the past LOL. First world problems I know but I’m a fan of both regardless if that makes sense. But then again the new seamaster will probably retail for like 6-7k easily which makes it a harder pill to swallow lol
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ErichPryde
··Seamasters ForeverI just wish the new seamaster update keeps the date. I really don’t care about symmetry but when I wear no date watches I still find myself looking at my cellphone for the date. Whenever that wasn’t an issue in the past LOL. First world problems I know but I’m a fan of both regardless if that makes sense. But then again the new seamaster will probably retail for like 6-7k easily which makes it a harder pill to swallow lol
Lots of speculation about what the update will look like that is just that. This isn't: it would be extra-ordinary and completely against the industries grain if Omega decided to do away with a date model totally.
Of every single thing that has been speculated regarding what a new model will look like, this is the one thing I would lay serious money on: there will be a date version going forward one way or another.
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eldiano84
·Lots of speculation about what the update will look like that is just that. This isn't: it would be extra-ordinary and completely against the industries grain if Omega decided to do away with a date model totally.
Of every single thing that has been speculated regarding what a new model will look like, this is the one thing I would lay serious money on: there will be a date version going forward one way or another.
It’s only confusing because of its all under the same 300smp banner if that makes sense.
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·I’m only suspicious because they keep pushing the NTTD style with its many variants including the recent orange release and makes me second guess on the notion that what if it’s the refresh and they didn’t say it yet.
It’s only confusing because of its all under the same 300smp banner if that makes sense.
I'm with Erich, these are just interesting special editions at the end stage of the current generation. When they refresh the SMP line with a new generation, it will be obvious and it will be conservative. Plain colours, ceramic bezel, skeleton hands, some kind of wave dial, date, HEV, Bond bracelet will all make an appearance. I'd guess the clear caseback is probably here to stay too.
I would really, really like to see a thinner case, tapered bracelet and a return to the old style HEV but I wouldn't bet on any of those, unfortunately. If I had to guess, they'll do a more traditional HEV but the case and bracelet will remain chonk.
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ErichPryde
··Seamasters ForeverI'm with Erich, these are just interesting special editions at the end stage of the current generation. When they refresh the SMP line with a new generation, it will be obvious and it will be conservative. Plain colours, ceramic bezel, skeleton hands, some kind of wave dial, date, HEV, Bond bracelet will all make an appearance. I'd guess the clear caseback is probably here to stay too.
I would really, really like to see a thinner case, tapered bracelet and a return to the old style HEV but I wouldn't bet on any of those, unfortunately. If I had to guess, they'll do a more traditional HEV but the case and bracelet will remain chonk.
Ironically.... so I've been wearing my modern ceramic SMP a lot more lately. And you know it's crazy, I really like the helium Escape valve now. The modern one has shape, curves, that the older one on my 2531 just doesn't have.
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ErichPryde
··Seamasters ForeverI’m only suspicious because they keep pushing the NTTD style with its many variants including the recent orange release and makes me second guess on the notion that what if it’s the refresh and they didn’t say it yet.
It’s only confusing because of its all under the same 300smp banner if that makes sense.
I see what you're saying, but if it is indeed the refresh we are still seeing simultaneous production with the standard ceramic dated version.
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Kmmdad57
·Yeah, the newer no date Seamaster 300M Pro Diver comes with a stainless steel millanese bracelet or a rubber strap. Of course you can purchase the standard 5 link Seamaster bracelet and have it fitted for you
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Kmmdad57
·I just wish the new seamaster update keeps the date. I really don’t care about symmetry but when I wear no date watches I still find myself looking at my cellphone for the date. Whenever that wasn’t an issue in the past LOL. First world problems I know but I’m a fan of both regardless if that makes sense. But then again the new seamaster will probably retail for like 6-7k easily which makes it a harder pill to swallow lol
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Kmmdad57
·Lots of speculation about what the update will look like that is just that. This isn't: it would be extra-ordinary and completely against the industries grain if Omega decided to do away with a date model totally.
Of every single thing that has been speculated regarding what a new model will look like, this is the one thing I would lay serious money on: there will be a date version going forward one way or another.
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darkguyver
·I just wish the new seamaster update keeps the date. I really don’t care about symmetry but when I wear no date watches I still find myself looking at my cellphone for the date. Whenever that wasn’t an issue in the past LOL. First world problems I know but I’m a fan of both regardless if that makes sense. But then again the new seamaster will probably retail for like 6-7k easily which makes it a harder pill to swallow lol
I like having the date too. I actually prefer the date in the 3 o'clock position rather than the 6 o'clock position as it just seems more natural to me have the date in the 3 o'clock position.
Don't get me wrong, that aluminum version is killer and I think at some point I may grab one. It is a Seamaster after all. However, ceramic is a little, and I do mean little, more appealing to me. Watch collecting is a very personal thing and there is no wrong choices.
Ironically.... so I've been wearing my modern ceramic SMP a lot more lately. And you know it's crazy, I really like the helium Escape valve now. The modern one has shape, curves, that the older one on my 2531 just doesn't have.
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ErichPryde
··Seamasters Foreveraluminum bezel and ceramic dial
On the black no date, the dial is aluminum as well as the bezel. Same with the 60th bond anniversary. I think the new orange marker probably has a painted, lacquered dial.
Yeah, the helium escape valve is the identifier of the SMP, it's what set's it apart from other dive watches. I believe the older 2531 also had similar curves on the case of the watch.
Indeed. Similar, with a smaller bezel and smaller case side. The difference that I am pointing out here is that the older HEV is a straight edge crown and smaller. Some people prefer that, and I thought I was one of those people but I've grown to like the larger, cupcake sided HEV.
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darkguyver
·On the black no date, the dial is aluminum as well as the bezel. Same with the 60th bond anniversary. I think the new orange marker probably has a painted, lacquered dial.
Indeed. Similar, with a smaller bezel and smaller case side. The difference that I am pointing out here is that the older HEV is a straight edge crown and smaller. Some people prefer that, and I thought I was one of those people but I've grown to like the larger, cupcake sided HEV.
Yeah, the 2531 has a 41mm diameter case while the modern SMP has a 42mm case. I know what you mean the new HEV design on the modern SMP has had watch fans divided. Personally I like both the modern Reese peanut butter cup design and the older straight design equally. I don't see why it has to be one or the other....
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ErichPryde
··Seamasters ForeverReally... I asked a local HK Omega AD and they said that the new black no date has a ceramic dial... 🤔
Unfortunately, sales associates are not always experts about the products they are selling. Not too long ago I had a sales associate telling me that the black no date has a titanium case, also not correct.
The use of aluminum in the dial is specifically a call back to the original 2531.80 and other "first gen" SMPs that used aluminum in the dial.
Here's what omega's site says:
