OMEGA Seamaster Cosmic 2000

Davidt · Nov 28, 2017

Good god man, it's not fake, it's just worn out and been refinished. The caseback is just the result of uneven wear/polishing.

OMEGALOMANIAC · Nov 28, 2017

OK, Sorry for even putting it out there. thanks for the help.

OMEGALOMANIAC · Nov 28, 2017

Davidt
Good god man, it's not fake, it's just worn out and been refinished. The caseback is just the result of uneven wear/polishing.

This is why I don't post. I wanted to start a conversation. That backfired.

Davidt · Nov 28, 2017

If you ask a question and put forward a theory, but a multitude of collectors say, "sorry your theory's wrong, it's x not y", but you continue to ignore everyone, who's the one that's out of line?

JimInOz · Nov 28, 2017

OMEGALOMANIAC
This is why I don't post. I wanted to start a conversation. That backfired.

There is no problem at all with posting and we welcome it.

But coming across a a self professed Omega guru:

"I know my OMEGAS, especially from the 60's and 70's and this one is 100% vintage but fake. Albeit, a VERY good fake."

and then seeming to know nothing of the 166.0129 Cosmics raises the spidey senses in our members.

We in isolation or individually know little bits here and there, but collectively we are a huge and valuable resource.

I hope you've taken our comments as intended (on the chin as we say where I come from) and continue to enjoy contributing to the forum.

Cheers

Jim

OMEGALOMANIAC · Nov 28, 2017

I was merely suggesting other theories. I may not be well Versed in this specific and odd type of OMEGA case and judging by other threads I have read, not many are. If I weren't well versed, why would I have noticed anything was wrong with this watch in the first place? Also, if I thought I knew everything, why would I be here asking for help?
Wear does NOT answer my question about the engraving on the case back. I agree with all other theories. However, I KNOW that OMEGA would not let a watch leave it's facility with a botched engraving/stamp on the case back. Especially when it is their logo. I thought this a chance to learn something and am not insulted, but are forums not to ask questions and be called either stupid or brilliant? The point is moot as the watch is going back to the seller. I just wanted the community to see a possible fake before it did.

Toishome · Nov 28, 2017

cicindela · Nov 28, 2017

The original thread poster is no longer with us (yes we are all very sad 🙁)
None the less I thought it would be beneficial for posterity to post a few more of these
"special" "fake" watches 😜. Apparently someone, er, Omega 😉 made quite a lot of them.

JimInOz · Nov 28, 2017

cicindela
The original thread poster is no longer with us (yes we are all very sad 🙁)
None the less I thought it would be beneficial for posterity to post a few more of these
"special" "fake" watches 😜. Apparently someone, er, Omega 😉 made quite a lot of them.

Well the first one is obviously a fake. Just look at the right leg of the first "A" in Seamaster.

cicindela · Nov 28, 2017

JimInOz
Well the first one is obviously a fake. Just look at the right leg of the first "A" in Seamaster.

😁

BTW, though you can't see it, apparently there are a bunch of "pricks" around here. Yes I know you are proud. 🙄

Archer · Dec 3, 2017

OMEGALOMANIAC
I just wanted to see what people's opinions were. In my experience, Not even a stamp would completely leave out portions of the design and deeply stamp the letter right next to it. I used to deal specifically in coins and aside from a poorly prepared die, these missing lines and parts of letters are not possible through stamping. Leading to what conclusion I do not know, but I am not new to this game and something is not right with this watch. If I knew what that was, I wouldn't be asking the oracle...

I have a fair bit of experience in stamping operations on steel parts like these case backs. Stamps missing parts of letter is not uncommon at all, and a lot can get made in a very short period of time as these sorts of stamping machines are typically producing parts in the area of 60+ per minute (that is the slower side of things certainly and we had some that ran much faster - the limit is typically more about the feeder than the press). We were stamping a part number, country of origin and company name on the parts, and partially missing letters was a common problem. So common in fact that we abandoned the process and I bought in laser marking systems to replace the stamping process entirely.

Cheers, Al