Help Weigh in on 2 New OLD STOCK Vintage Constellation Dials Listed on eBay?

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Dear Respectable Members,

Would be most grateful if you could weigh in on these two dials currently listed on eBay. They are listed as NEW OLD STOCK. Please see photos below:
Omega Constellation Pin Gold Pie Pan Dial with Arrow markers, Item# 381734623128
Omega Constellation Calendar Dial, Item# 381734634921

1. Firstly, are these two dials original and/or have they been refinished?
2. Secondly, would anyone know what calibre and case ref these dials would fit? Is the Connie Calendar for a Cal. 504, ref 2943?
3. Also, noticed the Connie Pie Pan with arrow markers - the dial is a 29.6mm which seems exceptionally large for a Cal. 505. May be case ref. 2887?

Many thanks and look forward to your replies.


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These are about 2mm too large for the average Constellation from the era they appear to be from. Mike and I chatted about them before, and he said if they were the 27mm size he would have snatched every last one up.

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Many thanks! Also, those markers just don't look right for some reason and the "Constellation" and "CALENDAR" script looks way too bold.

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I think these were sold by the then named watchco some years back and are probably later factory originals sold as replacement parts with the printing differences when compared to the vintage originals.

Regarding the 29mm arrowhead piepan dial, have my doubts where they would fit. Would they fit in a 2887? I am personally skeptical since I still think they are too big. Besides, even if they did, where are you going to find a rose gold 2887 case (whether solid or capped)?
 
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Besides, even if they did, where are you going to find a rose gold 2887 case (whether solid or capped)?
Which is why it's still for sale.

Watchco had a lot of oddball Omega replacement dials like that several years ago. Probably made for them under license, but all had issues like incorrect fonts, obscure case reference sizes, etc.

These likely came from that batch.
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Mikael at urdelar.se highly recommended. Great and honest guy
 
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