HELP!....I know 'nuffink' about taking photographs!

nonuffinkbloke · Apr 29, 2019

Despite the fact that I know nothing about photography, I find myself in a situation where I have to take some very clear shots of my vintage watch for an Omega Forums sales post. I don't have a dedicated, digital camera but I do have access to a couple of phone/cameras. A Samsung and an iphone.

Most of the pictures I've taken, and posted on this forum, have been taken in artificial domestic light or just out in the sun light. That's OK for everyday shots, but for a sales post I need to show the detail of the case as it really is and also I need to try to demonstrate how different the brown dial appears depending on the light.

I had a chat with a friend of mine (who is a photographer) he just said " for you, without training, it's going to come down to trial and error" 😟

He gave me a portable light box and said "see how you get on!" 😁 This is what I have.

I am aware that we have one or two members (such as @ICONO) who are experts in this field. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thankyou. 😀

Jonathan.

ICONO · Apr 29, 2019

Jonathan…I have used a version of a light box before…Before academia, I was a Advertising / Fashion Photographer, shooting across Europe for 30 years

Without knowing the digital constraints of your phone camera…

Put the light box on a window sill…with the back facing towards the actual window

Try and avoid direct sunshine…go for a more ambient light… from a bright, but overcast day

Just sit down and play…practice, practice, practice…until you achieve the effect you want

I would also add that for a ‘black dialled’ watch…because of the very nature of a lightbox…it can be very difficult to avoid reflections on the crystal.…that subsequently cloud / conceal the actual dial

Therefore I would suggest …Find a nice piece of aged leather ( but not distracting ), as a background and just use folded sheets of white paper as reflectors…and try shooting some images without the lightbox first ?

Pm me if you get stuck ?

JanV · Apr 29, 2019

Hi.

I use almost exclusively an iphone X for all my pictures. And for closeups i use an app called Camera+. This has a macro function, and sticking a loupe in front of the camera lens in this mode gets me the ability to take some real closeups if needed. Just on my mobile.

Take pictures outdoors, closer to when the sun starts to set, not at high noon, and you get great results.

Here are a few samples of the above:

JimInOz · Apr 29, 2019

Using a phone without stability can also be a PITA.

I use bits of wood and rubber bands to make a DIY iPhone holder to take shots. I also use the earphone cord as a switch so that after I get it all set up and focussed I don't have to touch the actual phone body, just press the volume button on the headphone lead.

nonuffinkbloke · Apr 29, 2019

ICONO
Jonathan…I have used a version of a light box before…Before academia, I was a Advertising / Fashion Photographer, shooting across Europe for 30 years

Without knowing the digital constraints of your phone camera…

Put the light box on a window sill…with the back facing towards the actual window

Try and avoid direct sunshine…go for a more ambient light… from a bright, but overcast day

Just sit down and play…practice, practice, practice…until you achieve the effect you want

I would also add that for a ‘black dialled’ watch…because of the very nature of a lightbox…it can be very difficult to avoid reflections on the crystal.…that subsequently cloud / conceal the actual dial

Therefore I would suggest …Find a nice piece of aged leather ( but not distracting ), as a background and just use folded sheets of white paper as reflectors…and try shooting some images without the lightbox first ?

Pm me if you get stuck ?

Wow that was very good timing. I was just editing my post to tag your username and I think you responded just before I completed my edit.

Thankyou very much @ICONO. When my mate handed me the light box in it's circular bag, I wasn't expecting it to emerge as a small 'pop up' tent. 😁

I think I could describe today in Dorset as a "bright, but overcast" day. I do have some leather so I shall make a start using your suggestions. Very kind of you to offer additional advice. Much appreciated. 👍

ICONO · Apr 29, 2019

JanV
Hi.

I use almost exclusively an iphone X for all my pictures. And for closeups i use an app called Camera+. This has a macro function, and sticking a loupe in front of the camera lens in this mode gets me the ability to take some real closeups if needed. Just on my mobile.

Take pictures outdoors, closer to when the sun starts to set, not at high noon, and you get great results.

Here are a few samples of the above:

Very, very sound advice

Personally, I would avoid Quartz as a ‘resting’ back ground…hence the leather suggestion

However, other people have different thresholds, of impending danger…

ICONO · Apr 29, 2019

Also be aware that light has different ‘colour temperatures’

It is ‘blue’ in the morning …and ‘yellow’ in the Evening…that colour temperature affects the final image

If you shoot in the evening you may dramatically over emphasise the ‘brownness’ of the dial…without intending to do so

Try late morning / early afternoon ?

( you can see the effect of the ‘yellow’ cast on the image of the ‘Speedmaster on quartz’, above )

nonuffinkbloke · Apr 29, 2019

Thankyou very much @ICONO, @JanV and @JimInOz. I had a feeling there would be much more to this than just pointing the camera at the watch. I feel quite inspired to 'have a go' now.😀

STANDY · Apr 29, 2019

Just take it to a Time 4A Pint and throw it on the table and say highest offer takes it home. 😗

PS I would stand back once you put it on the table 😉

GLWS

padders · Apr 29, 2019

Its a shame you are considering selling Jonathan, I hope this doesn't mean you will be leaving us. I am sure the money will come in handy though and it may be a good time to get off the merry go round.

GordonL · Apr 29, 2019

I'd like to second @padders comment Jonathan. Please stay active here after you've sold your dad's watch. I'm sure I'm not the only one who enjoys your (occasionally) off the wall comments. And I think you impart far more knowledge and common sense to the forum than you give yourself credit for!

Linzer · Apr 29, 2019

@nonuffinkbloke a couple of nice shots come handy when selling a watch but I have to say that most of your pictures taken about your vintage Omega are just fakkin' awesome! 😁

Davidt · Apr 29, 2019

I'm about as average as it gets with photography (that's probably being generous), so take my advice with a pinch of salt.

I take all my pictures with an iPhone and the key things for me are:

1. Use indirect natural light. Never artificial unless you have a decent set up and/or an idea of how to set it up.

2. Take at least 3 shots of each image/angle/pose and then go through selecting the best example of each.

Evitzee · Apr 29, 2019

Davidt
I'm about as average as it gets with photography (that's probably being generous), so take my advice with a pinch of salt.

I take all my pictures with an iPhone and the key things for me are:

1. Use indirect natural light. Never artificial unless you have a decent set up and/or an idea of how to set it up.

2. Take at least 3 shots of each image/angle/pose and then go through selecting the best example of each.

Same procedure for me, too.....I take all pics with a 9 year old Canon 12.1MP Power Shot camera. It's served me well.

Natural light, a few different angles, maybe a touch up for color balance and brightness/contrast, nothing major. I'll often take 15-20 pics and only keep 2 or 3, the rest I just dump. That's the beauty of digital, it costs nothing to shoot a pic unlike the old film days when it got costly to have to take multiple shots.

I get pretty good results...I'm not trying to be an Ansel Adams or Matthew Brady. Kudos for those that try to make super professional pics with a light box, or art like photos, but that really isn't my interest.

jimmyd13 · Apr 29, 2019

Jonathon, I'm no David Bailey but I have taken a lot of photos of watches for sales posts ... here's a few tricks that I've found help:

take photos outside on a sunny but overcast day ... we tend to get a few of those. Phone cameras perform much better in natural light;
Indoor:

Outdoor:

rather than hold the phone close to the subject, keep it 18 inches or so away and zoom in;

if you want macro shots of particular parts of the dial, hold a loupe against the phone's lens and then focus in on the area you want to photograph. That's how I got this one:

You've got a lightbox but if you want to avoid reflections, put a piece of white card or paper between your watch and the light source.

Finally, just play and take lots and lots of photos ... it's not like you're paying for the film or processing these days.

nonuffinkbloke · Apr 29, 2019

padders
Its a shame you are considering selling Jonathan, I hope this doesn't mean you will be leaving us. I am sure the money will come in handy though and it may be a good time to get off the merry go round.

Thankyou @padders. Well, I am keen to remain a member here and intend to replace it with a contemporary Speedmaster that I can wear and enjoy on a daily basis.

I have enjoyed owning this beautiful vintage watch, but my personal circumstances dictate that it is time to pass it on to a member who can service it and keep it safe for years to come. I know it will go to a collector who will appreciate it and that it will probably appear on this forum from time to time.

My Dad was a working class bloke, but he loved his Chester Barrie, Saville Row suits and he loved his Omega watches. This old Speedmaster was his favourite, and I know he would approve of it going to some one on this forum..😀

marco · Apr 29, 2019

nonuffinkbloke
Thankyou @padders. Well, I am keen to remain a member here and intend to replace it with a contemporary Speedmaster that I can wear and enjoy on a daily basis.

I have enjoyed owning this beautiful vintage watch, but my personal circumstances dictate that it is time to pass it on to a member who can service it and keep it safe for years to come. I know it will go to a collector who will appreciate it and that it will probably appear on this forum from time to time.

My Dad was a working class bloke, but he loved his Chester Barrie, Saville Row suits and he loved his Omega watches. This old Speedmaster was his favourite, and I know he would approve of it going to some one on this forum..😀

Jonathon, think long and hard you may regret selling.
It has been a pleasure reading your posts, continue.
Please reconsider, there is a little of your dad in that watch. I do not mean to make you feel bad what must be done must be done and your dad would agree. Maybe another way to raise funds ?
Best of luck with the reluctant sale, I am sure we will hear of the ongoing "life" of this watch from the new owner.

nonuffinkbloke · Apr 30, 2019

marco
Jonathon, think long and hard you may regret selling.
It has been a pleasure reading your posts, continue.
Please reconsider, there is a little of your dad in that watch. I do not mean to make you feel bad what must be done must be done and your dad would agree. Maybe another way to raise funds ?
Best of luck with the reluctant sale, I am sure we will hear of the ongoing "life" of this watch from the new owner.

Thankyou for the encouraging words Marco. 😀

mjb · Apr 30, 2019

I'll throw another suggestion out here just to be different.

Go buy a digital camera. Get a good quality used camera, like a Nikon D50 which has a small sensor and only gives you like 4Mb images. But that's more than you need to post a "for sale" ad, and you can pick up one of those for less than $100 US. Spend the money on a good lens, in this case you'd want something that can shoot macro. As my friend the semi-pro photog always told me, spend on the glass, not the body. Any decent lens (again, buy used) will be easy to sell later if you decide that it's not for you. Then spend $25 on a tripod to hold the camera steady.

After that it's just a matter of learning how to use it, aperture versus shutter speed, and have fun. You can even use it to take pictures of your kids, pets and/or spouse. Or car. Or nature....

For me, lighting is always the challenge when taking pictures of a watch. That lightbox will help a lot.

nonuffinkbloke · May 8, 2019

mjb
I'll throw another suggestion out here just to be different.

Go buy a digital camera..............

For me, lighting is always the challenge when taking pictures of a watch. That lightbox will help a lot.

Just messing around. I used my camera flash light to light the watch, while taking the pictures with another camera. Shows up a lot of detail on the dial.