Constellation Delivered Today

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Friends, just sharing my excitement with like-minded enthusiasts 馃榾

This was delivered this afternoon. There's a bit of family tradition with Omega, and especially the Constellation. To me, this version of it is just right: 38mm, a bit of 18k gold to go against the steel, and a premium caliber in the engine bay.

Thanks for viewing, and thank you, David, for being an outright gentleman of a trading partner.

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Friends, just sharing my excitement with like-minded enthusiasts 馃榾

This was delivered this afternoon. There's a bit of family tradition with Omega, and especially the Constellation. To me, this version of it is just right: 38mm, a bit of 18k gold to go against the steel, and a premium caliber in the engine bay.

Thanks for viewing, and thank you, David, for being an outright gentleman of a trading partner.

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Nice, we don't see that many Constellation Double-Eagle variants despite them being exceptionally popular especially in Asia, they're relatively uncommon in western markets but the larger sized ones like this 38mm look really substantial on a man's wrist. The textured dial looks really nice too.
 
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Nice, we don't see that many Constellation Double-Eagle variants despite them being exceptionally popular especially in Asia, they're relatively uncommon in western markets but the larger sized ones like this 38mm look really substantial on a man's wrist. The textured dial looks really nice too.
Thanks! Is this considered a Double Eagle? it's the version powered by Caliber 8500, produced starting ~2015, I believe.
 
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Thanks! Is this considered a Double Eagle? it's the version powered by Caliber 8500, produced starting ~2015, I believe.
I'm pretty sure the double eagle name came to be applied to the modern Constellation design with larger flat bars to differentiate it from the earlier Manhattan variant with rounded bars on either side. The first double eagle was in about 2003 and the design has continued since then.

There's a mention of its release here: https://monochrome-watches.com/history-of-the-omega-constellation-in-depth/
 
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Great watch! My first "nice" watch was a quartz Constellation. I always regretted being talked into the "superior" quartz version and have wanted to replace it with an automatic but never gotten around to it. I seldom see them in the wild, which is a shame.
 
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Friends, just sharing my excitement with like-minded enthusiasts 馃榾

This was delivered this afternoon. There's a bit of family tradition with Omega, and especially the Constellation. To me, this version of it is just right: 38mm, a bit of 18k gold to go against the steel, and a premium caliber in the engine bay.

Thanks for viewing, and thank you, David, for being an outright gentleman of a trading partner.

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Gerald Genta design, George Daniel's co-axial movement, and Omega manufacturing. You can not go wrong.

Obsessed with that dial.
 
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I like the constellation design better than the royal oak.

....if only the constellation had a screw down crown! The lack of one restricts it to being a dress watch only.
 
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I like the constellation design better than the royal oak.

....if only the constellation had a screw down crown! The lack of one restricts it to being a dress watch only.
100m depth rating isn't sufficient for you?
 
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I like the constellation design better than the royal oak.

....if only the constellation had a screw down crown! The lack of one restricts it to being a dress watch only.
I said something similar about screw-down crowns to a watchmaker once, and he told me he鈥檇 seen plenty of watches with screw-down crowns with water damage and explained the threading of the screws doesn鈥檛 necessarily make it watertight, just prevents you from accidentally pulling out the crown in the water鈥nd then he added that for some watches, even if the crown was pulled out and the watch submerged, the gaskets would prevent water from going in!
 
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I said something similar about screw-down crowns to a watchmaker once, and he told me he鈥檇 seen plenty of watches with screw-down crowns with water damage and explained the threading of the screws doesn鈥檛 necessarily make it watertight, just prevents you from accidentally pulling out the crown in the water鈥nd then he added that for some watches, even if the crown was pulled out and the watch submerged, the gaskets would prevent water from going in!
Yep! Threads aren't water tight (since they work by being a large helical leak!). The idea is that they cause it to stay tight against the gasket and not accidentially remove, but ALSO that they can (in some applications!) be used to compress the gasket to improve its seal.

In negative-pressure environments, a screw-down-crown could potentially create a mechanical engagement (beyond the setting lever spring) to keep the crown from 'popping out', but of course the opposite is the case (pressure is keeping the crown in!) at depth.

As far as watches that are watertight with the crown out: definitely! There are quite a few patents/watches from Omega/Rolex/etc that use multiple gaskets to keep water tight at every configuration. I even have a chronograph where you're able to use the pushers at 300m (As I understand it, the 300m chronograph is the only one you can use at depth!).
 
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100m depth rating isn't sufficient for you?
If it was real, sure. I personally don't trust it though.

I don't feel any risk swimming, showering (yes, I know steam and heat can be bad) with my ATs, my Zodiac Seawolf with a screw down crown, or even more inexpensive watches with screw down crowns that I own. I wouldn't feel comfortable doing the same with any of my other non SD crown watches (Speedmaster, etc) despite the water resistance rating.

I'm fine with accepting it as a "me" thing, and if others feel comfortable swimming in the ocean with a Constellation, great. Personally though, it's been a deterrent from me buying one as it's not as versatile as an Aqua Terra or other watches with better water resistance. There must be some merit to screw down crown watches, as I don't know of any without that feature that are in the same depth rating range as a dive watch.
 
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If it was real, sure. I personally don't trust it though.
It's real, Omega says so, read this;

https://omegaforums.net/posts/1880167/ Archer
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Ah yes, my least favourite topic comes up again. So to provide even more evidence (that I'm sure will be ignored) Omega recently published some training materials on the Omega Extranet for their sales staff. I can't show it directly because it's internal documentation, but I will quote from it, It starts off with this:

HOW DEEP CAN YOUR OMEGA REALLY GO?

Water resistance remains one of the most complex questions in watchmaking. This is why we are taking you below the surface to reveal what our timepieces can truly withstand in the aquatic environment. This knowledge will ensure a...
 
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It's real, Omega says so, read this;

https://omegaforums.net/posts/1880167/ Archer
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Ah yes, my least favourite topic comes up again. So to provide even more evidence (that I'm sure will be ignored) Omega recently published some training materials on the Omega Extranet for their sales staff. I can't show it directly because it's internal documentation, but I will quote from it, It starts off with this:

HOW DEEP CAN YOUR OMEGA REALLY GO?

Water resistance remains one of the most complex questions in watchmaking. This is why we are taking you below the surface to reveal what our timepieces can truly withstand in the aquatic environment. This knowledge will ensure a...
Yep. Absolutely this. Omega guarantees to depth advertised. When you service, the shop is required to test go 110% of depth.

I don't swim with my Speedmasters(due to chronograph pushers), but every other Swatch/Rolex I have no problem with.

Everything you see about dynamic pressure/etc is all BS that other manufacturers use to excuse why their 100m watch leaks in the shower.
 
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I don't swim with my Speedmasters(due to chronograph pushers),
Shouldn't be a problem as well

https://omegaforums.net/posts/2269184/ Archer
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There is a disconnect between the depth rating and what a watch is deemed to be suitable for by the manufacturers.

Not with Omega. The depth is the depth - that's all you need to know.

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I wouldn't like to bump a Speedy pusher hard enough or at the wrong angle at any depth greater than when swimming on the surface馃憥

I wear a Speedmaster daily - like 90% of the time that is the watch that's on my wrist, as I use it regularly for work. In the last 10 years, I cannot recall once ever looking down and finding my chronograph had been started by some inadvertent push of...
 
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I said something similar about screw-down crowns to a watchmaker once, and he told me he鈥檇 seen plenty of watches with screw-down crowns with water damage and explained the threading of the screws doesn鈥檛 necessarily make it watertight, just prevents you from accidentally pulling out the crown in the water鈥nd then he added that for some watches, even if the crown was pulled out and the watch submerged, the gaskets would prevent water from going in!
Unless the design is REALLY terrible, no watch should leak just because the crown is pulled out, whether it has a screw down crown or not.
 
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Unless the design is REALLY terrible, no watch should leak just because the crown is pulled out, whether it has a screw down crown or not.
And on the flip side, people seem to get a false sense of confidence from screw-down crowns. If the seals are degraded, a screw-down crown won't save you. I've seen many water-damaged dials in Rolex oyster cases.
 
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