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·I bought this last year to add to a long list of projects and have finally gotten around to making it something of a priority.
It's a pleasant thing, I hope you'll agree, a little on the small side but it has that rather interesting dial pattern which we've seen on a few UGs and Zeniths from the 30s /40s (Yes, I'm looking at you, the owner of that salmon-dialled calibre 249).
Here are some more photos:
As you can see, there is no case reference marked anywhere but I believe we can infer it's a 7362 given we have the case marking on what looks to be the same reference, albeit with a cal 260:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/universal-genève-four-digit-references.152589/page-7#post-2245110
I, it appears somewhat absent-mindedly, bought a spare movement that was advertised as a cal 246 but turned out to be a 245, also last year. You will see that my watch is missing the balance wheel and, in any case, I generally prefer to have some spares before I start troubling a watchmaker. The 246 is 19.3mm (8.6 ligne?) and the 245 is 17mm (7.5 ligne?) so that's not going to fly. One interesting point is that my watch appears to be a centre seconds (the more attentive of you will of course note it's a no-seconds), as indeed the 245 appears to be.
Spare 246s seem to be fairly sparse but there is this on Ebay (and which seems to be the right size):
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314909914943
The balance wheel on this one looks shagged so I'm not planning to entertain it but is it a common thing to use a sub-second movement and effectively blank over the second hand pinion? Or is it possible that the 246 is available in both centre and sub-second formats?
I thought I'd check to see what the Bestfit catalogue offered as an alternative just in case there was a common A Schild/Movado/other equivalent and its giving me a Sonceboz 262 (which at least appears to have an approximately correct ligne size - 8.75) and which also appears to be known as an Aurore Villeret 262. I have no reason to believe there is any commonality with a UG cal 262.
Can anybody else shed some light on the sub-second thing? Of course, if someone is sitting on a loose 246 movement or knows were I can find one, I really am all ears.
Finally, do we have a name for this style of dial as a few examples seem to have cropped up in the last couple of years.
It's a pleasant thing, I hope you'll agree, a little on the small side but it has that rather interesting dial pattern which we've seen on a few UGs and Zeniths from the 30s /40s (Yes, I'm looking at you, the owner of that salmon-dialled calibre 249).
Here are some more photos:
As you can see, there is no case reference marked anywhere but I believe we can infer it's a 7362 given we have the case marking on what looks to be the same reference, albeit with a cal 260:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/universal-genève-four-digit-references.152589/page-7#post-2245110
I, it appears somewhat absent-mindedly, bought a spare movement that was advertised as a cal 246 but turned out to be a 245, also last year. You will see that my watch is missing the balance wheel and, in any case, I generally prefer to have some spares before I start troubling a watchmaker. The 246 is 19.3mm (8.6 ligne?) and the 245 is 17mm (7.5 ligne?) so that's not going to fly. One interesting point is that my watch appears to be a centre seconds (the more attentive of you will of course note it's a no-seconds), as indeed the 245 appears to be.
Spare 246s seem to be fairly sparse but there is this on Ebay (and which seems to be the right size):
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314909914943
The balance wheel on this one looks shagged so I'm not planning to entertain it but is it a common thing to use a sub-second movement and effectively blank over the second hand pinion? Or is it possible that the 246 is available in both centre and sub-second formats?
I thought I'd check to see what the Bestfit catalogue offered as an alternative just in case there was a common A Schild/Movado/other equivalent and its giving me a Sonceboz 262 (which at least appears to have an approximately correct ligne size - 8.75) and which also appears to be known as an Aurore Villeret 262. I have no reason to believe there is any commonality with a UG cal 262.
Can anybody else shed some light on the sub-second thing? Of course, if someone is sitting on a loose 246 movement or knows were I can find one, I really am all ears.
Finally, do we have a name for this style of dial as a few examples seem to have cropped up in the last couple of years.
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