I think one should be very careful making posts such as one by Modest Proposal above.
Why spoiling someone's chance to sell a nice watch? First telling any who might be interested that the price is too high and then stating the dial is not original. Not cool in my book.
I think one should be very careful making posts such as one by Modest Proposal above.
Why spoiling someone's chance to sell a nice watch? First telling any who might be interested that the price is too high and then stating the dial is not original. Not cool in my book.
O.K. 😀 this is the kind of post would would have expected from the start. An opinion backed by some details.
I still do not agree but it is often difficult to judge the dial just from the scans. Seeing the texture of the background would be helpful. I have seen original dials with ink applied thick above the surface of the dial. The ink here is very precise and uniform. I do not see any pitting. It stays in straight lines and the lines are of uniform width.
Here are a few of my dials where the dial maker, and there were just a few, used both round 3 top as well as flat 3 in the same dial.
The ink here is very precise and uniform....It stays in straight lines and the lines are of uniform width
If you do not feel that there is something wrong with making such posts then I have nothing to ad.
All I said: one should be careful making certain claims about another's watch offered for sale.
I did not say one should not express one's opinion. I often question the motive of such posts...
If you saw my post as an attack I am sorry. This was not my intent.
Not all vintage watches are available with original mint dials. I thought the watch was nice and I would not mind having one. Obviously viewing it in person is preferred over seeing it on the screen to make a definite judgement on the dial.
The seller did not make a representation as to dial being original or not.
As to the value, the e-bay market decided what it should be at this time and this auction. Myself, I would not make a post stating the price is too high while the auction is still in progress.
I believe e-bay is for adults to spend their money as they wish. Not all buyers are collectors and not all collectors must have an original dial. Not all sellers are very educated as to originality of the dial either.
It is possible this seller did not know and therefore did not address this issue in their auction. Auctions are typically run over the period of 7 to 10 days. Plenty of time to ask the seller any questions important to one or ask others for an opinion. I came upon your post just by chance. To me it was totally unimportant if this watch had original dial or not. I was not about to buy it. If a watch like this was presented to me in person and the price was right I would buy it. The dial was very presentable.
The originality of the dial is not a deal killer for me. I enjoy vintage watches for more than just their dials.
There are over 250,000 watches offered on e-bay at any given time. Surely most watches are not offered to collectors? Any seller is free to offer anything they have for sale with as little or as much information as they have or are willing to share. It is up to the buyer to ask for more or pass it by. E-bay is a Bazaar with good and some not so good sellers. Buyer beware.
Yes,
This is a collector's forum. I posted my findings on a collector's forum. I am dealing with collectors.
...It's interesting to me that you initially argue that the watch which is the subject of this thread is not a redial, and then shift to argue that redials in fact are not that bad, and furthermore, that the onus is on the buyer to spot them rather than the seller to disclose. It's a curious position for a watch seller to take. "Buyer beware" indeed.
