Any T17 Omega's out there?

tdn-dk · Oct 23, 2016

I think this caliber deserves a thread.

This small caliber from 1934 had a 60 hour power reserve, not beaten by any mechanical Omega calibers until the caliber 8500 from 2006.

I will start with mine:

CK 3516 - CK 891 and CK 921

mac_omega · Oct 23, 2016

Here is mine with an "unknown" movement version:

It is cased in a 14K pink gold art deco body.

The "special" is the movement:

It has 17 Jewels opposed to 15J commonly found and it has special finishing to the crown- and ratchet wheel and also to the pallet fork.
The latter is angled and polished.
This watch had been delivered to the US hence the inscription "unadjusted" on the movement to save on import taxes/duties as they were imposed related to the number of jewels...

This movement is believed to be a chronometer version due to the special finish although the inscription does say differently.

Syrte · Oct 23, 2016

Beautiful -- all of them. Thanks for sharing such eye candy 👍

DON · Oct 24, 2016

I have 2 17 jeweled movements, but no cases

DON

mac_omega · Oct 25, 2016

DON
I have 2 17 jeweled movements, but no cases

DON

Photos or it never happened 😀

OMTOM · Oct 25, 2016

Thomas, Erich, lovely stuff.

This is of course deep in Yann territory. He is too polite to say so, but you couldn’t have a more extensive display than in his post in June (OK, not all of these FORTY are T17s, but most) …

https://omegaforums.net/threads/concerning-tanks.41385/#post-484341

DON · Oct 25, 2016

mac_omega
Photos or it never happened 😀

Make me work why don't you 😀

Quick pick

DON

mac_omega · Oct 26, 2016

DON
Make me work why don't you 😀

Quick pick

DON

Don,

as I can´t see the movements´ finish please let me know if they have the same high grade finish as the one I showed? (ratchet- and crown wheel, pallet fork)

regards

Erich

DON · Oct 26, 2016

mac_omega
Don,

as I can´t see the movements´ finish please let me know if they have the same high grade finish as the one I showed? (ratchet- and crown wheel, pallet fork)

regards

Erich

Hi Erich,

Standard movements, but have the added center wheel jewels

Picked them up as the prices were reasonable

DON

Kwijibo · Oct 26, 2016

I have one that is being re done (dial). I love this very 30's watch. The movement is simple and effective. Yours are beautiful.

Tire-comedon · Oct 27, 2016

mac_omega
Don,

as I can´t see the movements´ finish please let me know if they have the same high grade finish as the one I showed? (ratchet- and crown wheel, pallet fork)

regards

Erich

I have some 17 jewels T17, some with the 'standard' finish, at least one with the high grade finish. I wil post a picture this evening.

Tire-comedon · Oct 27, 2016

Here is the picture showing both finihes for 17jewels side by side.

Modest_Proposal · Oct 27, 2016

Incredible, guys. Learned something new today.

Vitezi · Oct 27, 2016

mac_omega
This movement is believed to be a chronometer version due to the special finish although the inscription does say differently

Any idea why Omega would have spent the extra time and money to produce a 'high grade' finish on some movements but not others? It apparently did not take advantage of any chronometer ratings. The serial numbers are not sequential, so they must have made batches of high grade movements. Just seems odd to add cost without an obvious benefit...

Kwijibo · Oct 27, 2016

For gold cases?

Modest_Proposal · Oct 27, 2016

Companies would produced different grades of their movements for different markets and price points. You can find different finish/jewel counts on most pocket watch and wrist watch movements from that period from a major manufacturer.

Vitezi · Oct 27, 2016

OK, that makes sense. So the 17J movements were perhaps sold through the luxury retailers of that era. I imagine a wristwatch salesman might show off the finely finished T17 movement to a prospective customer in an effort to make the sale, just as they might have done with a high-end pocket watch.

DON · Oct 28, 2016

Thinking that the 17 jeweled movements are near the end of this movements time?

Majority of watches or movements sold on Ebay tend to be 15 jewel. Very few 17 jewel. Wonder how many were actually made

DON

tdn-dk · Oct 28, 2016

My T17's is in the 8.657.xxx-8.826xxx range around 1937 and 15 J movement

Maybe @mac_omega 's is one of the rare 17.2 S 17 p 😀

OMTOM · Oct 28, 2016

Sorry but I don’t think there is any connection between the T17 and 17.2S - apart from being adjacent in the listings (the 17.2S is not a ‘tonneau’). And that’s why DON’s comment is interesting - we are given no breakdown of the variations within those 167,400 T17s.