Another IWC Cal 89 (with MUCH gratitude!)

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Hi again,

After posting the earlier thread (thank you!) I was contacted by a fellow OFer with a different-lug-style cal 89 that appears to be in very good shape and original to my eyes, but I'd love to have input from the hivemind here. He sent an abundance of pictures--I'm only posting a fraction--and I'm wondering if anyone has feedback or opinions about originality and condition.

The one meaningful photo category missing here is an inside-caseback shot: he explained that he cannot open the watch himself to obtain that. (Presumably, the movement shot was taken at last service.)

To my eyes, the dial text appears to align with the "1954 till at least 1960 all signed 'Swiss'" text that @NT931 posted in the earlier thread.

The watch about $500 less than the other one--2600 USD.

And in the interest of etiquette, I should explain: he knows I'm posting this. And this is not a surrogate sales post: I will not share his username here or in PM. (If he wants to reply, of course, that's up to him.)
 
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The cal 89 can do much better than the Timegrapher shows 馃槈 so why was this not better regulated during last service ?
But it is a good looking watch with still sharp lines judging by these pictures, and the logo looks correct to me.

Is the buckle also original and 18K ?
For pricing you can check C24 and Ebay past sales. Gold price is up by 500 usd since last year so maybe that has filtered into the market ? The 37mm is the more attractive version maybe, so higher in pricing ? if the more common models are towards the lower 2000,- range ?. Just my 2 cents, what is fair is up to you and the seller ofcourse.
Make sure you compare as many examples as you can !
 
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The color of IWC pink gold is my absolute favorite. Ideally you would check that the movement and case serial numbers are reasonably consistent with each other, but I guess that won't be possible in this case.
 
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Thanks. I鈥檓 really torn between which lug style I prefer鈥攊t鈥檚 sort of a coin toss, really, and I may let condition and price be more decisive factors.

I鈥檝e done quite a bit of comparing and both dials seem correct and original to my eyes. Definitely appreciate the forum鈥檚 help here.

Will ask about the buckle. None of his pics really featured that, and I have no expectations on that front, though it would be a nice little bonus!

Totally agree with Dan re: the tone here. It鈥檚 what鈥檚 pushed IWC out ahead of Omega, Longines, Movado, etc, at least at this stage in my deliberations. Presumably generous copper content鈥攁t least that鈥檚 what I鈥檓 guessing.
 
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FWIW, I think that the lug style of the example in your original post is more attractive, and likely to preferred by a majority of collectors.

Also, I'm guessing that this one was not cased in Switzerland, which would arguably be a market negative. Do you have a photo of the inside of the case back?
 
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Seller doesn鈥檛 have inside-caseback pic, and has explained that he doesn鈥檛 have a means of opening to check.

Interesting re: the non-Swiss casing.
 
Tony C.
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Wait - the seller provided a movement photo, but no inside case back?

A Swiss case would not typically have a hallmark on the outside of the case back.
 
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Right鈥攑resumably the movement photo came via a service.

You鈥檙e giving me something to think about here, which I appreciate.
 
Dan S
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If we're talking about personal preference, I agree with @Tony C about liking the bombe or shark-fin lugs over the lugs in the OP watch.
 
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There is also this one, which has the (significant for me) advantage of being in the US. The dial isn鈥檛 quite as clean as the others鈥攕ome light spots here and there鈥攂ut everything looks original, I think. The seller would need to come down in price quite a bit.
 
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I really like the shark-fin lugs, but they need to be SUPER sharp and thick, or it's a pass. I'd need to see better photos. I think that the condition of the dial is going to be a personal choice. I can often tolerate some even light surface spotting, but when there are big spots or water staining on the crown side, it sometimes draws my eye and bothers me.
 
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A few photos showing (some of) the lugs. Ok, do you think?

Given the condition of this one, the price is surely 1000 USD too high, and it鈥檚 an estate consignment piece, I think, so I鈥檓 not sure how negotiable it will be.
 
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I would judge those lugs as pretty good. The edges are rounded, but the overall shape is still intact. As I noted above, the light water staining around the "3" does draw my eye. It could be a decent entry point into IWC, but the price would need to be right. If you are shopping for a one-and-done drop-dead gorgeous dress watch for special occasions, this might not be the one.
 
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Appreciate the input! I agree that the water-staining is a substantial negative and I might keep hunting. I鈥檇 only consider this one if the price dropped very dramatically.
 
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Appreciate the input! I agree that the water-staining is a substantial negative and I might keep hunting. I鈥檇 only consider this one if the price dropped very dramatically.
Maybe I missed it, but I don't know if you posted the price.
 
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It was in the listing I linked: rather absurdly, $3995 USD.
You never know, but usually when prices are so far out of line, it's a waste of time to engage with the seller.
 
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Tony C. Tony C.
If you can afford it, I'd recommend spending more on a very good or better example. You'd be happier with it in person, and it would always be easier to re-sell.

I'd want to see photos of the inside, and I don't know if there is room to negotiate, but this one looks very nice:

https://www.oldwatchjason.com/product-page/iwc-shark-fin-cal-89

Oh wow---that is very clean-looking. I'll inquire about a movement/caseback pic.
 
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