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馃ぃ Exactly the same date as the example pic I put up, weird!
Must have been right at the tail end of the "2000" on the dial.
Looks nice and clean under the hood 馃憤
I hadn't spotted the similarity, d'oh.
How did I miss that.
The caseback gasket was a bit gunky.

PS The spellchecker on this phone is getting on my nerves 馃槨馃が
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I hadn't spotted the similarly, d'oh.
How did I miss that.
The caseback jacket was a bit gunky
In comparison to a lot of old watches I've worked on that's spotless, some of them are a health hazard 馃ぃ
 
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I think that gives a ballpark area but probably not specific to assembly date.
The movements were probably stamped when they came on to TH stock rather than when the watch was assembled.
Totally true! But in my experience quite close. The watches I had with papers were generally sold well within 1 to 2 years from the date on the coil cover.

Hard to be sure that they have the original movement as well, so many movement swaps take place and the coil guards don't always get swapped over.
Also one of the easiest ways to check if it's original, right? If if has the coil cover it's most likely original. If the cover has disappeared it's most likely not. Can never be really sure though!

This is the pic of my movement showing it's date on the coil cover.
Looking good!
 
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Got a quick question for you guys on this forum about finding NOS (new old stock - so never been used) replacement original ETA 955.112 quartz movements. I know these are 7 jewel and generally considered superior (last longer, more durable) than the newer modern replacements since they stopped being made several years ago. They are getting harder to find and I wanted to buy now while I can still find wholesalers who have true replacements for eventual swap out. Anyone have any experience ordering these with either Swiss Watch House (swisswh.com) out of Cairo Egpyt or U.S. Watch Parts out of Michigan? I want to make sure I am receiving true NOS and not reconditioned older movements salvaged from pervious watches
 
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Totally true! But in my experience quite close. The watches I had with papers were generally sold well within 1 to 2 years from the date on the coil cover.


Also one of the easiest ways to check if it's original, right? If if has the coil cover it's most likely original. If the cover has disappeared it's most likely not. Can never be really sure though!
Yes, I agree the date stamp is generally going to be fairly close and a reasonable guide.Its as good as we have anyway.

Also agree re the coil guard. I always swap the original dated guard back on to a replacement movement, but I'm probably in a small minority in doing that. Most simply wouldn't bother.

If the coil guard isn't stamped at all then we know it's a replacement.
There are also many secondhand replacement movements around with TAG signed guards and they find their way into watches of a different period.

A good example was a Heuer Titanium on Ebay recently. A pre 85 watch with a TAG signed coil guard dated for 1999!
Some watches like that were perhaps even repaired by TAG, it would be interesting to know if they bother to keep the original guard in place.
 
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Got a quick question for you guys on this forum about finding NOS (new old stock - so never been used) replacement original ETA 955.112 quartz movements. I know these are 7 jewel and generally considered superior (last longer, more durable) than the newer modern replacements since they stopped being made several years ago. They are getting harder to find and I wanted to buy now while I can still find wholesalers who have true replacements for eventual swap out. Anyone have any experience ordering these with either Swiss Watch House (swisswh.com) out of Cairo Egpyt or U.S. Watch Parts out of Michigan? I want to make sure I am receiving true NOS and not reconditioned older movements salvaged from pervious watches
I can't offer any experience with either of those suppliers being in the UK myself.
I agree that these movements are superior to the newer type though, I am a big fan of the old Normline range.Providing you have access to periodic servicing and a supply of coils and circuits they will last a lifetime.

In the UK I know of only one materials house which still has new stock. They limit sales to one per customer which suggests they don't have a lot of them.
 
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Got a quick question for you guys on this forum about finding NOS (new old stock - so never been used) replacement original ETA 955.112 quartz movements. I know these are 7 jewel and generally considered superior (last longer, more durable) than the newer modern replacements since they stopped being made several years ago. They are getting harder to find and I wanted to buy now while I can still find wholesalers who have true replacements for eventual swap out. Anyone have any experience ordering these with either Swiss Watch House (swisswh.com) out of Cairo Egpyt or U.S. Watch Parts out of Michigan? I want to make sure I am receiving true NOS and not reconditioned older movements salvaged from pervious watches
I've bought from Swiss Watch House out of Egypt. I can't say for sure if the movement is NOS. It looks newish, but I'm not an expert. All I know is the movement runs fine and I'm happy with the purchase.
 
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I've bought from Swiss Watch House out of Egypt. I can't say for sure if the movement is NOS. It looks newish, but I'm not an expert. All I know is the movement runs fine and I'm happy with the purchase.
Appreciate the testimonial!
 
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I bought a Longines Hydroconquest a few years ago that turned out to be fake.

There are numerous tells on it but the movement appeared to be a real eta, apart from the stem release button arrow.

On this one the arrow is continuous but in that fake Hydro, the arrow is broken.

Funny thing is, I bought an eta movement from H S Walsh and that had the broken arrow too.
I asked them about the anomaly but they couldn't help.

I've asked on other forums but didn't get anywhere.Anybody any clue as to the difference
 
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I bought a Longines Hydroconquest a few years ago that turned out to be fake.

There are numerous tells on it but the movement appeared to be a real eta, apart from the stem release button arrow.

On this one the arrow is continuous but in that fake Hydro, the arrow is broken.

Funny thing is, I bought an eta movement from H S Walsh and that had the broken arrow too.
I asked them about the anomaly but they couldn't help.

I've asked on other forums but didn't get anywhere.Anybody any clue as to the difference
There are a ton of minor variations in the circuits on these. They were made for 40 years or so. Green, blue, trimmer, no trimmer. Some have a hole for the trimmer some don't. You get different track layouts as well.The one consistent thing is they all interchange!
You can get Chinese replacement circuits as well but I'm not sure if they made full clone movements.

I just pulled four random ones out on the bench, the blue one on the right has an arrow on it's own. Came out of a dead Rado I think.
 
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There are a ton of minor variations in the circuits on these. They were made for 40 years or so. Green, blue, trimmer, no trimmer. Some have a hole for the trimmer some don't. You get different track layouts as well.The one consistent thing is they all interchange!
You can get Chinese replacement circuits as well but I'm not sure if they made full clone movements.

I just pulled four random ones out on the bench, the blue one on the right has an arrow on it's own. Came out of a dead Rado I think.
Thanks 馃憤
Looks like the movement is genuine then 馃 that'll explain it's reliability which has been like the 2000's
 
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Thanks 馃憤
Looks like the movement is genuine then 馃 that'll explain it's reliability which has been like the 2000's
HS Walsh are ok, can't see them passing off Chinese stuff as gen 馃憤

I must have had hundreds of these and I still see circuit variants I haven't seen before.
That blue one out the Rado has most of the circuitry on the underside and it's also a bigger main plate, it does away with the separate plastic bit that normally stays on the movement when you take the circuit off.
Still interchanges though.
 
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HS Walsh are ok, can't see them passing off Chinese stuff as gen 馃憤

I must have had hundreds of these and I still see circuit variants I haven't seen before.
That blue one out the Rado has most of the circuitry on the underside and it's also a bigger main plate, it does away with the separate plastic bit that normally stays on the movement when you take the circuit off.
Still interchanges though.
All the quartz eta's I've had have been superb, apart from the ones in my WAC111a.

I've only changed the battery once in that fake Hydro, in about 7 years.
 
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All the quartz eta's I've had have been superb, apart from the ones in my WAC111a.

I've only changed the battery once in that fake Hydro, in about 7 years.
It was a sad day when they stopped making them. I love them,definitely amongst my all time favourite movements and easily my favourite quartz.
Real high quality workhorses, not a plastic gear or pivot in sight. They get treated as a throwaway like most quartz movements but are way better than that, everything can be fixed.

They are virtually bulletproof, hardly ever fail naturally. In my experience nearly ever failure is down to clumsy battery changes with people hitting the coil, water ingress or leaking batteries. Mechanical failures are rare and natural circuit failures are too.
Plenty still running that are 40 years old and have never seen any cleaning or fresh lubrication.
 
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It was a sad day when they stopped making them. I love them,definitely amongst my all time favourite movements and easily my favourite quartz.
Real high quality workhorses, not a plastic gear or pivot in sight. They get treated as a throwaway like most quartz movements but are way better than that, everything can be fixed.

They are virtually bulletproof, hardly ever fail naturally. In my experience nearly ever failure is down to clumsy battery changes with people hitting the coil, water ingress or leaking batteries. Mechanical failures are rare and natural circuit failures are too.
Plenty still running that are 40 years old and have never seen any cleaning or fresh lubrication.
I've got a lot of vintage quartz TAGs (1000, 2000, SEL, 6000, Formula 1 etc.), I worry about how long they'll go without an overhaul service.

The problem is most watch repair shops will charge just as much to do an overhaul service (if they're even willing to do it) as they'll charge to swap out the movement (inclusive of the ETA movement cost).

I've started to buy spare movements, so I can do the movement swap myself should the need arise. But even then, I don't know the state of the lubrication on these replacement movements.
 
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I've got a lot of vintage quartz TAGs (1000, 2000, SEL, 6000, Formula 1 etc.), I worry about how long they'll go without an overhaul service.

The problem is most watch repair shops will charge just as much to do an overhaul service (if they're even willing to do it) as they'll charge to swap out the movement (inclusive of the ETA movement cost).

I've started to buy spare movements, so I can do the movement swap myself should the need arise. But even then, I don't know the state of the lubrication on these replacement movements.
Most will charge significantly more to service I suspect. There is well beyond the cost of a new movement involved in stripping, cleaning, relubrication and reassembly. A lot of watchmakers aren't really interested in servicing quartz either.

I imagine most will take the route of fitting the direct swap modern replacement.
I've already seen a number of early watches where this has been done.
There was a Heuer 1000 on Ebay recently that had been fitted with a new ETA F06. 115,really spoilt the watch in my view.
Those movements cost around 拢30-33 to the trade, you don't get much skilled labour for that price.

It's not a bad idea to buy a few movements as spares, we are going to have a decent used parts supply for a long time though. There are millions of these out there.
The first thing to dry up will be genuine new circuits and coils but the Chinese do make replacements.

The mechanical side on the 7 jewel versions will last our lifetimes and beyond.
Single jewel versions will inevitably suffer more wear in the pivots and train, especially when unserviced but are still long lived.

Servicing quartz is easier than servicing mechanicals. You don't have to worry about low amplitude,beat error, set mainsprings or a multitude of other things.
It's a good place to start for a hobbyist.

It may well be that proper quartz servicing comes back into vogue as the supply of new movements runs out. More quartz watches than ever are now in the collectable category, if the demand is there it will happen.
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Got a question for all you ETA Quartz movement experts out there. I ordered a replacement ETA 955.412 quartz movement that arrived today. When unpacking, I notices a small piece of gold-toned metal loose in the bag with the movement. You can clearly see it in the attached photo. Anyone have any idea what it is, where it belongs and whether the movement will work without this in place? Concerned that something got knocked loose or broke in transit and I need to contact seller. Would appreciate any info if anyone recognizes the piece from shape. Thanks
 
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Got a question for all you ETA Quartz movement experts out there. I ordered a replacement ETA 955.412 quartz movement that arrived today. When unpacking, I notices a small piece of gold-toned metal loose in the bag with the movement. You can clearly see it in the attached photo. Anyone have any idea what it is, where it belongs and whether the movement will work without this in place? Concerned that something got knocked loose or broke in transit and I need to contact seller. Would appreciate any info if anyone recognizes the piece from shape. Thanks

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It's called the hour wheel spring clip and it appears to be a temporary transit clip to stop the hour wheel falling off during handling. I've never actually had a movement with one fitted since I always buy second hand movements.
Hour wheels are often sent in a separate bag as they do tend to fall off being relatively loose fit over the cannon pinion.
If you post a photo of the whole movement then I can confirm if the hour wheel is actually in place.

There should also be a wafer thin curled copper washer which goes on top of the hour wheel.
That washer is trapped between the dial and hour wheel when the dial goes on. It prevents the hour wheel wheel riding up and disengaging when it rotates.
 
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Thanks Thehighwayman, very helpful. I've only seen used or salvaged movements from donor watches like you, so never seen this before either. I took the advice of several on this forum and decided to make a small investment in buying some N.O.S. (new old stock) while these higher quality seven jewels and more durable ETA movements are still available in market. That way if I need a new coil or circuit board, I have spare(s) readily available. Should keep my quartz Tags in good working order for rest of my lifetime and then it becomes my son's problem to find another or service. Here is top shot zoom of this new movement (in bag). I wanted to keep everything intact so I did not remove from packaging . It looks like it was shipped with hour wheel attached (I've seen them shipped in small separate bags normally).