1st Gen P-Sub

LouS · Mar 29, 2015

From European Watch Co up in Bwaston. Case looks right (for a change), and lume not filling the hour plots is correct, but this looks odd - the lume dots are a little too generous. Assessments? Service dial? Nitpicking on my part?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-G...2346&clkid=5076877777925030159&_qi=RTM2067267

rolokr · Mar 29, 2015

Looks legit to me, not sure if this bracelet goes with the watch ? More pictures could
help, my gut feeling that it a very nice example. Prices are expensive for this iconic sub ! Lucky I have one !

LouS · Mar 29, 2015

See, I like yours. It's like the others I've seen.

rolokr · Mar 29, 2015

What don't you like about this UG sub from the Boston Watch Company ?

LouS · Mar 29, 2015

In general, I do like it. The lume plots are fatter and cleaner than I am used to seeing, so I'm questioning whether they are new or this is a service dial.

rolokr · Mar 29, 2015

Yes Lou, I see what you're saying. If it is a new old stock dial, maybe ? Does look to good for it's age. Could be touched up ?

Tony C. · Mar 29, 2015

While I am no expert on the model, I'd still venture to assert that there is no way it is an original, untouched dial. The color and cleanness of the lume on the dial and in the hands is simply too dissonant.

Perhaps a service dial, or perhaps a re-lume.

jordn · Mar 29, 2015

Came across this earlier today, too. Definitely re-lumed imo. Incorrect top crown as well

papaebetu · Mar 30, 2015

I will add a macro later, for now only this one...

GIGI

Jonatan · Mar 31, 2015

What about this one? The lume is completely different from yours. Looks like it lost the lume on the outer dial. I don't even know if this is real or a fake. It's much cheaper which makes me doubt. Case seems different (angles) but might not even be the 1st generation.

ELV web · Mar 31, 2015

Jonatan
What about this one? The lume is completely different from yours. Looks like it lost the lume on the outer dial. I don't even know if this is real or a fake. It's much cheaper which makes me doubt. Case seems different (angles) but might not even be the 1st generation.

It is a fake, there is a whole thread about it in this forum, I couldn't seem to find it but it is there and sure worth a read. Lous and Georgetown Hoya were major contributors to that particular thread.

Jonatan · Mar 31, 2015

Explains the 2200 asking price.

woodwkr2 · Apr 1, 2015

jordn
Incorrect top crown as well

That may not be accurate. Many known examples with the same 'mismatched' crowns.

Jonatan · Apr 1, 2015

ELV web
It is a fake, there is a whole thread about it in this forum, I couldn't seem to find it but it is there and sure worth a read. Lous and Georgetown Hoya were major contributors to that particular thread.

I was actually looking for it in case I ever end up with a few thousand dollars to spend on a real one. Couldn't find it either but will keep on looking.